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#468749 - 09/19/06 02:33 AM >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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From the videos I've seen so far, the Civic has won everytime. Didn't Nissan get nailed for claiming 180hp???

Let the games begin....should be a good thread...


Edited by urflix (09/19/06 02:34 AM)
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#468750 - 09/19/06 05:33 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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#468751 - 09/19/06 08:36 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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#468752 - 09/19/06 09:01 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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I have two buddies that have one and they're pretty "torqueyy"....it pulls pretty decent from low to mid range....but......nothing like having top end like our Hondas....

Anybody have any kill stories?
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#468753 - 09/19/06 09:29 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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My uncle has a blue Spec V. I've only seen it once, never been in it yet. It was one of the first cars on my list when I went shopping for cars a month ago. There was none on the lot and the salesperson had no idea what I was even talking about.

I saw one then a couple days ago and my wife and I both agreed that we lilked our Si better. I'm looking forward to getting together with my Uncle sometime in the near future though so we can compare the 2 cars.
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#468754 - 09/19/06 09:41 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Sounds great...keep us posted dunwheels....like i said two of my buddies have one and i'm looking forward to doing some runs haha....

I'm actually on my way to go pick up my Silver Si now...fresh out the box..
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#468755 - 09/19/06 11:25 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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#468756 - 09/19/06 12:17 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Apples VS Oranges. No doubt the 06 Si is a better car.

Keep in mind that you are comparing a old less expensive design with a new one. The Spec V would run circles around the Si that was released around the same time (the EP). Well, at least until it had engine problems.

It is a little more fair to compare the Si to the Cobalt SS, Ion Redline, WRX, Saab 9-2, GTI, SRT-4... stuff like that. Then again some of these cars are old and outdated next to the all new Civic. It should be better in a lot of respects as it is newer. See how the Si stacks up to the competition in a year or two (or about 5 years in the case of the Spec V)....
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#468757 - 09/19/06 01:20 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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One star thread for using ">>> <<<" in the title. Makes you look like an attention whore.

Seriously though, the QR25 has a nice torque curve. The only reason this engine suffers is because torque nosedives well before peak HP. See the graph below:




From a dig the Spec V has the advantage. The Si is 175lbs heavier with MUCH lower bottom end torque (to maximize fuel economy). At highway speeds the Si's power can be extracted from the upper 1/3 of the powerband (thanks to better gearing). See below:

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#468758 - 09/19/06 01:37 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Torque isn't the only thing that takes a nose-dive in the QR25.
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#468759 - 09/19/06 02:22 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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I've owned both the SE-R/Spec V and Si.

The QR25DE runs fine IF you put an aftermarket header on it and loctite the butterfly valves. If you fix those two problems, usually the motors will run great assuming the damage has not already been done. The rapid oil consumption comes from these two things, usually, and most dead motors can be attributed to it as well. Boosted ones tend to eat up headgaskets because the factory ones are made of very thin paper, but boosted ones also put up some pretty good numbers when they are tuned right.

The cars are not top end motors. Torque drops off in a hurry up top and even with great aftermarket camshafts and tuning they struggle to see 96-98mph trap speeds. Gearing doesn't help them either, as it's really short and geared towards acceleration so once they get moving they tend to run out of steam.

Handling is great once you get some good tires on them. They're VERY nimble in narrow and twisty areas thanks to the suspension setup, and my Spec V liked to play around on road courses as well thanks to the Nismo suspension it had on it. Make 'em stiffer and get good tires on them and the cars will handle a LOT better than you think. It'd surprise many a person at autocrosses and road courses.

In the two I owned I pulled 14.6's at 94-95mph in both, so they can run pretty good with bolt-ons given their horsepower if they are driven right, but reliability plagues them pretty bad and is ultimately why I got rid of both and ended up switching over to the Honda camp.

It is a cheaper car, which is why it is so appealing. You can pick them up new in the $14,000 price range (regardless of what they sticker for), so you can get yourself into a pretty sporty entry-level car for a nice price.

I like the cars, and they'll always have a special spot in my heart. Most expect them to blow up while racing, so when you sail past them people are generally left a bit on the surprised side. They tend to have a bad rap thanks to the motor, but some of them can be pretty impressive. The aftermarket really hasn't given them much of a chance until just recently, so I hope to see more positive things coming from the cars!

The Si is a much nicer car, but at $7000 more I would certainly hope so.


Edited by Monsoon (09/19/06 02:22 PM)

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#468760 - 09/19/06 02:43 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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my old 99 Si with intake and exhaust would beat my buddies spec-v with intake all day long, not by a huge amount but it would defintely pull him...and thats when the Si was a 160hp b16.
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#468761 - 09/19/06 03:03 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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my old 99 Si with intake and exhaust would beat my buddies spec-v with intake all day long, not by a huge amount but it would defintely pull him...and thats when the Si was a 160hp b16.




I feel bad for that Spec V, then. I never had issues with Si's, and that was either stock or bolt-on ones. Never had an issue with them, and that was from a stop or a roll.

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#468762 - 09/19/06 04:34 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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They're $7000 less because thats the only way dealers can get them off their lots. Too bad Nissan never wanted to give us a SR20.....
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#468763 - 09/19/06 05:33 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger. Granted, some performance specs, but no big deal. I would pass on the Spec V.
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#468764 - 09/19/06 05:34 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The Altima with the 3.5 VQ Engine is a different Story.
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#468765 - 09/19/06 05:40 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Uhhhhh.... completly different chassis.
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#468766 - 09/19/06 07:28 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Let the games begin....should be a good thread...




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#468767 - 09/20/06 07:17 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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They're $7000 less because thats the only way dealers can get them off their lots. Too bad Nissan never wanted to give us a SR20.....




You do realize that the SR20 was in the USA from 1991 up until 2001, correct?

The engine had trouble passing emissions and was old. Nissan decided to axe it for a more universal engine. The MR20DE is about the closest thing left to the SR here in America right now, and I have no idea how it works.

I agree on the pricing, though. The car lacks the performance punch that similar cars in the MSRP price range go for, and most people consider the motor to be pure junk and want no part of it (and who can blame them).


Edited by Monsoon (09/20/06 07:19 AM)

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#468768 - 09/20/06 07:18 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger. Granted, some performance specs, but no big deal. I would pass on the Spec V.




Both cars, outside of the motor, aren't really that similar at all. Please know what you're talking about before you spout off worthless facts.

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#468769 - 09/20/06 07:44 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger. Granted, some performance specs, but no big deal. I would pass on the Spec V.




Both cars, outside of the motor, aren't really that similar at all. Please know what you're talking about before you spout off worthless facts.




Just meant the motor junior, don't sweat the small details. And don't insult.
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#468770 - 09/20/06 08:30 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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And I quote:

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SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger.




You sure about that?

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#468771 - 09/20/06 01:41 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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You do realize that the SR20 was in the USA from 1991 up until 2001, correct?

The engine had trouble passing emissions and was old. Nissan decided to axe it for a more universal engine. The MR20DE is about the closest thing left to the SR here in America right now, and I have no idea how it works.

I agree on the pricing, though. The car lacks the performance punch that similar cars in the MSRP price range go for, and most people consider the motor to be pure junk and want no part of it (and who can blame them).




Let me make a correction, I was too vague in my assumption... by SR20... I meant SR20DET.


Edited by Morbo (09/20/06 01:44 PM)
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#468772 - 09/21/06 05:17 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Looks like you only quote what you want to. Either accept my explanation or don't, I dont really care son.
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#468773 - 09/21/06 05:39 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Looks like you only quote what you want to. Either accept my explanation or don't, I dont really care SON.



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#468774 - 09/21/06 06:10 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Any videos of these two running?
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#468775 - 09/21/06 07:17 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The 06 Si is no match for the SpecV; my friend has one with only a CAI and the torque is awesome down low but I still had him like a fender whenever we ran, with my B16 I/H/E.

The new wave, well not new really, is to swap the VQ35 motor into the SpecV chassis, its nice swap and the cars run low 13s/high12s with it.

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#468776 - 09/21/06 07:26 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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What would the F/R weight ratio be on a Spec V with a VQ? Thats gotta be rough, as does squeezing it in there. (granted I can't remember seeing a Sentra's engine bay)
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#468777 - 09/23/06 03:56 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The flat torque curve on the Spec V's pretty crazy...the whp is crap though......can't wait until I run my buddies with their cars....both have Spec V's....
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#468778 - 09/23/06 12:07 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Let the games begin....should be a good thread...




Yup, another winner!






LOL



I have owned a 03 spec v and a 04 spec v and two different 00 si's. And between the two models, i like the si way better.
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#468779 - 09/23/06 02:58 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Anyone have any videos?
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#468780 - 10/03/06 05:57 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Any vids of these two running? -- There's only 1 on you tube and it sucks...
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#468781 - 10/12/06 04:50 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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I use to have a 2003 Spec V with aem intake, motormount inserts, lower tie bar, obx header, axle back meagan (elcheapo stuff) Nismo short throw. The car rocked. It has v8 like torque there is no hesitation with its broad torque curve and short gearing.

At the end i put a 75 shot of nitrous on the car, took it to the track and ran a 12.7@99mph. WTF Dumb track, it said i had a .669 60' But my friends z24 ran consistant 13.7-13.8 all night. We raced and were bumper to bumper from 50-105mph. I do have a couple videos, here is one with low bottle pressure of my spec v.

http://web.triton.net/d/davidt/4th.avi

Id take a 06 Civic Si over the spec v any day. Civic si is beautiful, i cant take my eyes off it. it has more hp and handles awesome. But spec v vs 05 civic... spec v for sure.

I have a 2000 trans am with catback, raced my friends I/H/E spec v. from a 5 mph roll he hangs dead even with me to 60. From 45mph he puts 3 car lengths on me then i walk past him hard. The throttle response and gearing in those cars is amazing. For reference my T/A ran a 13.4@106mph
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#468782 - 10/12/06 06:14 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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WTF forum am I in??????????????????????????????????


again, 15.1>15.7 Difficult aint it? Quit asking dumb fuck ricer questions idiot.

Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.
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#468783 - 10/12/06 07:36 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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WTF forum am I in??????????????????????????????????


again, 15.1>15.7 Difficult aint it? Quit asking dumb fuck ricer questions idiot.

Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.




Wow, you're a bright one! Yes you are in the wrong forum idiot...Take your SRT piece of crap and go burn it....
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#468784 - 10/12/06 07:41 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.




Are you fucking joking? This is gold material right here.

06 Si mods, PLEASE continue moving this stuff in here

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#468785 - 10/12/06 07:48 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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This is awosome a bunch of kids talking thinking thier Si is hawt shit.
Comparing an 06 car to a car that people were buying in 2001
Complaining about how nissan sux because JDM sweet motors that are old as fuck and overrated never came here.


If only if were the old SVA sigh.

Oh and FYI to the kiddies in my old specv I would consistantly run 15.0s stock in the 1/4mile with a trap speed of 90-91 and my 60's were normally 2.0-2.2. They are definitely turds in a straight line...but then again the Si is a slightly faster turd so take that for what its worth

Overall I would fucking hope the Si is nicer being 5 years newer (a long time in the auto world) and with a sticker that is what 4-5K more?
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#468786 - 10/12/06 07:49 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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It has v8 like torque



I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?

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#468787 - 10/12/06 07:54 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

It has v8 like torque



I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?




Its 4.6 would be like a jet engine noob
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#468788 - 10/12/06 07:57 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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WTF forum am I in??????????????????????????????????


again, 15.1>15.7 Difficult aint it? Quit asking dumb fuck ricer questions idiot.

Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.




Wow, you're a bright one! Yes you are in the wrong forum idiot...Take your SRT piece of crap and go burn it....




You better learn a bit about what type of car owners make up sva. Drive into the ocean dickweed. Oh, and my piece of crap works just fine, thanks.

Oh, and Max, they can keep the threads here as long as these idiots get bashed. Where are all the regulars with this "gold"
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#468789 - 10/12/06 08:22 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Fuck the Spec-V. It's the biggest piece of shit letdown car made since 2000. There's a reason the QR25 only lasted for 4 years instead of the 8+ years Nissan planned and was replaced with the MR20: it's a complete pile.
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#468790 - 10/12/06 08:40 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Take your SRT piece of crap and go burn it....




SRT-4>>>>>>>>>>>Si.

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#468791 - 10/12/06 09:31 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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SRT-4>>>>>>>>>>>Internet.

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#468792 - 10/12/06 09:52 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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From the videos I've seen so far, the Civic has won everytime. Didn't Nissan get nailed for claiming 180hp???

Let the games begin....should be a good thread...


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#468793 - 10/12/06 10:08 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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#468794 - 10/12/06 10:58 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The flat torque curve on the Spec V's pretty crazy...the whp is crap though......can't wait until I run my buddies with their cars....both have Spec V's....




If you know what you are doing, you can get the tork curve you want. I mean look at my all motor Civic with Combat Five body kit:



Biggest gain is my true dual exhaust on the Civic, took some serious work to get the floor all smooth:


See the piston, rods and crank is till stock, the heads are not.


The boy kit rocks!


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#468795 - 10/13/06 02:36 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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WTF forum am I in??????????????????????????????????


again, 15.1>15.7 Difficult aint it? Quit asking dumb fuck ricer questions idiot.

Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.




Wow, you're a bright one! Yes you are in the wrong forum idiot...Take your SRT piece of crap and go burn it....




Dude, you just opened a can of worms.
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#468796 - 10/13/06 02:44 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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One star thread for using ">>> <<<" in the title. Makes you look like an attention whore.

Seriously though, the QR25 has a nice torque curve. The only reason this engine suffers is because torque nosedives well before peak HP. See the graph below:




From a dig the Spec V has the advantage. The Si is 175lbs heavier with MUCH lower bottom end torque (to maximize fuel economy). At highway speeds the Si's power can be extracted from the upper 1/3 of the powerband (thanks to better gearing). See below:






Show me where the SI has MUCH lower bottem end torque. Looks like the Spec V is making about 25-30 more.
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#468797 - 10/13/06 03:08 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The flat torque curve on the Spec V's pretty crazy...the whp is crap though......can't wait until I run my buddies with their cars....both have Spec V's....




If you know what you are doing, you can get the tork curve you want. I mean look at my all motor Civic with Combat Five body kit:

....

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#468798 - 10/13/06 03:16 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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the thread author is an idiot.
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#468799 - 10/13/06 10:02 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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When I said it had "v8 like torque" i meant thats how it feels. It felt EXACTLY like my bolt on 5.0 mustang. the seat of the pants feeling of the instant throttle response. my subaru makes the same power but has nothing below 4000rpms.
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#468800 - 10/13/06 10:13 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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I have a 2000 trans am with catback, raced my friends I/H/E spec v. from a 5 mph roll he hangs dead even with me to 60. From 45mph he puts 3 car lengths on me then i walk past him hard. The throttle response and gearing in those cars is amazing. For reference my T/A ran a [Email]13.4@106mph[/Email]




I don't know what to say to you if you fall 3 lenghts back racing a Spec V in an LS1. I dunno, maybe downshift, or don't sleep at the start? The LS1 has more than double the torque of the Spec V at any point in the power band.
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#468801 - 10/13/06 04:06 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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You are correct but you neglect other factors in racing. Power to weight ratio and gearing. My trans am has 2.73 gears (a4) from 45mph its a dog. to high for first to low for second. My trans am weighed in at 3674 with less then 1/4 tank of gas and me in it. Spec V weighs about 2800 plus the driver...

even 5mph - 60mph the spec v pulls half a car by 60 im gaining that back and starting to pass him. After 70 its murder for the spec v. My post is just to show the spec v has incredible throttle response and torque (for a 4 cylinder.)

Nowdays my T/A isnt near stock. I have full bolt ons, big cam, 3400 stall with full lockup it would be totally different now. I think i should be in the low 12's with a trap of 113-115 (traction depending)
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#468802 - 10/13/06 04:21 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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It has v8 like torque



I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?




LOL!!! Actually a 4.6 mustang would feel like a Honda Civic DX. The 4.6 is a marvel of technology, it has a long stroke but no torque. Its overhead cam but doesnt rev.

Its a turd. (not purtaining to the DOHC 4.6)
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#468803 - 10/13/06 04:37 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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The only people who think the Spec V has torque are people who previously drove even weaker 4 cyl cars.

The Spec V has weak torque, weak power and if you have problems pulling away from one in a T.A that ran 13.6, then check to make sure you didn't fill up with diesel.

I/E/H Spec V's are running 94 mph on a good day.
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#468804 - 10/13/06 06:02 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA




You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.
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#468805 - 10/13/06 07:21 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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ooo, im almost gonna agree with him on the "feel" thing about the stang. its not quite that bad....but its bad.
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#468806 - 10/15/06 10:01 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.
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#468807 - 10/15/06 10:20 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Quote:

It has v8 like torque



I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?




LOL!!! Actually a 4.6 mustang would feel like a Honda Civic DX. The 4.6 is a marvel of technology, it has a long stroke but no torque. Its overhead cam but doesnt rev.

Its a turd. (not purtaining to the DOHC 4.6)




What do you think this is, 1996?

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#468808 - 10/15/06 10:54 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.




Are you high?
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#468809 - 10/15/06 11:14 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.



A civic owner with such an elitist attitude about an si is like homeless guy bragging about net worth
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#468810 - 10/15/06 11:46 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.



A civic owner with such an elitist attitude about an si is like homeless guy bragging about net worth




I dunno..you'd think the guy with the biggest refrigerator box would be the "Donald Trump of the Gutter Society"
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#468811 - 10/16/06 07:10 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.




So better to make the 350Z race his gas I guess. Even though an Si is cannon fodder for a Z but could easily lose to a Spec V.

Nothing like econobox elitism.
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#468812 - 10/16/06 02:21 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA




You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.



End yourself with a tree while sucking a rice dick fags!!!!

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#468813 - 10/16/06 03:31 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Die in a pool of your own vomit ricetard.

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#468814 - 10/16/06 04:11 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.




Come on dude your car is a lot closer to a spec V in acceleration than it is to a 350z.
spec v runs mid 15s most of the time
si runs low 15s most of the time.
350z runs low 14s most of the time.

Get a clue.
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#468815 - 10/16/06 07:12 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.



The power of Christ compels you, bitch!

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#468816 - 10/17/06 03:51 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Come on dude your car is a lot closer to a spec V in acceleration than it is to a 350z.
spec v runs mid 15s most of the time
si runs low 15s most of the time.
350z runs low 14s most of the time.

Get a clue.


I beat a STi in my Si last night!!!!!!!!! No way I can evar lose to a lowly 350!
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#468817 - 10/18/06 11:42 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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lol @ this thread.

p.s. i had no problems trapping 95-96 in my car

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#468818 - 10/18/06 01:26 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Hail the mighty 06 SI brother.
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#468819 - 10/19/06 12:02 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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......nothing like having top end w/o the use of VTEC, unlike our Hondas....





Fixed.
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#468820 - 10/19/06 07:24 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Quote:

We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA




You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.



End yourself with a tree while sucking a rice dick fags!!!! :

mad:



I see the SVA nerds get beat they resort to name calling like the little kids they all are.
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#468821 - 10/19/06 09:56 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA




You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.



End yourself with a tree while sucking a rice dick fags!!!! :

mad:



I see the SVA nerds get beat they resort to name calling like the little kids they all are.





you tell us what to do, then someone does it, then you cry about it.

are you really a meanoldwoman? i dated a girl who did the same thing.
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#468822 - 10/19/06 09:59 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA




You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.



End yourself with a tree while sucking a rice dick fags!!!! :

mad:



I see the SVA nerds get beat they resort to name calling like the little kids they all are.





you tell us what to do, then someone does it, then you cry about it.

are you really a meanoldwoman? i dated a girl who did the same thing.




LOL.
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#468823 - 11/14/06 06:37 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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the thread author is an idiot.




These people on here amaze me....you on the other hand....go F##k yourself asshole.
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#468824 - 11/14/06 08:46 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

the thread author is an idiot.




These people on here amaze me....you on the other hand....go F##k yourself asshole.




What amazes me is anyone who buys a new SI- why?
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#468825 - 11/14/06 08:52 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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These people on here amaze me....you on the other hand....go F##k yourself asshole.




Wait, you bumped a thread that was dead for over a month just to say that? He's right, you really are an idiot.

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#468826 - 11/14/06 09:28 AM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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What amazes me is anyone who buys a new SI- why?




Cheap, reliable, 200HP being enough for me at the moment.

I didn't quite have more than 20k to spend on a car.
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#468827 - 11/14/06 02:03 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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Quote:

Quote:

What amazes me is anyone who buys a new SI- why?




Cheap, reliable, 200HP being enough for me at the moment.

I didn't quite have more than 20k to spend on a car.




you know there is a thing called USED cars.

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#468828 - 11/14/06 02:59 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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i own a 05 spec v. it has decent power and great torque. i think its the torque that makes the car great. i love the civic si especially the 99 body but i just ended up getting the spec instead. if i could do it again, id get the 99 si for sure. the only bad thing about the spec is the interior is not all to great. if people want something different to fix up, i would say the spec is a good alternative to the civic, bc there are alot of civics out on the streets.
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#468829 - 11/14/06 05:45 PM Re: >>>>>>>>> Civic Si 06 vs. Sentra SE-R Spec V <<<<<<<<<<
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i own a 05 spec v. it has decent power and great torque. i think its the torque that makes the car great. i love the civic si especially the 99 body but i just ended up getting the spec instead. if i could do it again, id get the 99 si for sure. the only bad thing about the spec is the interior is not all to great. if people want something different to fix up, i would say the spec is a good alternative to the civic, bc there are alot of civics out on the streets.




the only thing that makes the spec-v *ok* not great is that it can be had for ~15k

the spec-v has literally no aftermarket support, and the items it gets brake other parts(B&M shifter). The seats are nice. I probably had one of the fastest minimal modded spec-vs and it was only a mid 14 seconds...

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