#468750 - 09/19/06 05:33 AM
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Spec-V's love to blow up! My neighbor has one and is on its 3rd engine...
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#468757 - 09/19/06 01:20 PM
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Design
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One star thread for using ">>> <<<" in the title. Makes you look like an attention whore.
Seriously though, the QR25 has a nice torque curve. The only reason this engine suffers is because torque nosedives well before peak HP. See the graph below:
From a dig the Spec V has the advantage. The Si is 175lbs heavier with MUCH lower bottom end torque (to maximize fuel economy). At highway speeds the Si's power can be extracted from the upper 1/3 of the powerband (thanks to better gearing). See below:
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#468759 - 09/19/06 02:22 PM
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Monsoon
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I've owned both the SE-R/Spec V and Si.
The QR25DE runs fine IF you put an aftermarket header on it and loctite the butterfly valves. If you fix those two problems, usually the motors will run great assuming the damage has not already been done. The rapid oil consumption comes from these two things, usually, and most dead motors can be attributed to it as well. Boosted ones tend to eat up headgaskets because the factory ones are made of very thin paper, but boosted ones also put up some pretty good numbers when they are tuned right.
The cars are not top end motors. Torque drops off in a hurry up top and even with great aftermarket camshafts and tuning they struggle to see 96-98mph trap speeds. Gearing doesn't help them either, as it's really short and geared towards acceleration so once they get moving they tend to run out of steam.
Handling is great once you get some good tires on them. They're VERY nimble in narrow and twisty areas thanks to the suspension setup, and my Spec V liked to play around on road courses as well thanks to the Nismo suspension it had on it. Make 'em stiffer and get good tires on them and the cars will handle a LOT better than you think. It'd surprise many a person at autocrosses and road courses.
In the two I owned I pulled 14.6's at 94-95mph in both, so they can run pretty good with bolt-ons given their horsepower if they are driven right, but reliability plagues them pretty bad and is ultimately why I got rid of both and ended up switching over to the Honda camp.
It is a cheaper car, which is why it is so appealing. You can pick them up new in the $14,000 price range (regardless of what they sticker for), so you can get yourself into a pretty sporty entry-level car for a nice price.
I like the cars, and they'll always have a special spot in my heart. Most expect them to blow up while racing, so when you sail past them people are generally left a bit on the surprised side. They tend to have a bad rap thanks to the motor, but some of them can be pretty impressive. The aftermarket really hasn't given them much of a chance until just recently, so I hope to see more positive things coming from the cars!
The Si is a much nicer car, but at $7000 more I would certainly hope so.
Edited by Monsoon (09/19/06 02:22 PM)
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#468760 - 09/19/06 02:43 PM
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blue rocket
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my old 99 Si with intake and exhaust would beat my buddies spec-v with intake all day long, not by a huge amount but it would defintely pull him...and thats when the Si was a 160hp b16.
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#468761 - 09/19/06 03:03 PM
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Monsoon
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my old 99 Si with intake and exhaust would beat my buddies spec-v with intake all day long, not by a huge amount but it would defintely pull him...and thats when the Si was a 160hp b16.
I feel bad for that Spec V, then. I never had issues with Si's, and that was either stock or bolt-on ones. Never had an issue with them, and that was from a stop or a roll.
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#468767 - 09/20/06 07:17 AM
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Monsoon
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They're $7000 less because thats the only way dealers can get them off their lots. Too bad Nissan never wanted to give us a SR20.....
You do realize that the SR20 was in the USA from 1991 up until 2001, correct?
The engine had trouble passing emissions and was old. Nissan decided to axe it for a more universal engine. The MR20DE is about the closest thing left to the SR here in America right now, and I have no idea how it works.
I agree on the pricing, though. The car lacks the performance punch that similar cars in the MSRP price range go for, and most people consider the motor to be pure junk and want no part of it (and who can blame them).
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#468768 - 09/20/06 07:18 AM
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Monsoon
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SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger. Granted, some performance specs, but no big deal. I would pass on the Spec V.
Both cars, outside of the motor, aren't really that similar at all. Please know what you're talking about before you spout off worthless facts.
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#468770 - 09/20/06 08:30 AM
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Monsoon
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And I quote:
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SER Spec V is nothing more than an Altima with the 2.5 Four Banger.
You sure about that?
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#468773 - 09/21/06 05:39 PM
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#468778 - 09/23/06 12:07 PM
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#468781 - 10/12/06 04:50 PM
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I use to have a 2003 Spec V with aem intake, motormount inserts, lower tie bar, obx header, axle back meagan (elcheapo stuff) Nismo short throw. The car rocked. It has v8 like torque there is no hesitation with its broad torque curve and short gearing.
At the end i put a 75 shot of nitrous on the car, took it to the track and ran a 12.7@99mph. WTF Dumb track, it said i had a .669 60' But my friends z24 ran consistant 13.7-13.8 all night. We raced and were bumper to bumper from 50-105mph. I do have a couple videos, here is one with low bottle pressure of my spec v.
http://web.triton.net/d/davidt/4th.avi
Id take a 06 Civic Si over the spec v any day. Civic si is beautiful, i cant take my eyes off it. it has more hp and handles awesome. But spec v vs 05 civic... spec v for sure.
I have a 2000 trans am with catback, raced my friends I/H/E spec v. from a 5 mph roll he hangs dead even with me to 60. From 45mph he puts 3 car lengths on me then i walk past him hard. The throttle response and gearing in those cars is amazing. For reference my T/A ran a 13.4@106mph
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#468784 - 10/12/06 07:41 PM
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Mods, please stop moving these threads into sva.
Are you fucking joking? This is gold material right here.
06 Si mods, PLEASE continue moving this stuff in here
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#468786 - 10/12/06 07:49 PM
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tropicana
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It has v8 like torque
I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?
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#468791 - 10/12/06 09:31 PM
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SRT-4>>>>>>>>>>>Internet.
cheers, scott
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#468792 - 10/12/06 09:52 PM
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From the videos I've seen so far, the Civic has won everytime. Didn't Nissan get nailed for claiming 180hp???
Let the games begin....should be a good thread...
WTF kind of bizarro world are you living in. NISMO >* [CrazedSS circa 2002]
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#468793 - 10/12/06 10:08 PM
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We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA
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#468794 - 10/12/06 10:58 PM
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#468796 - 10/13/06 02:44 AM
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#468797 - 10/13/06 03:08 AM
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#468799 - 10/13/06 10:02 AM
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LS14Winter
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When I said it had "v8 like torque" i meant thats how it feels. It felt EXACTLY like my bolt on 5.0 mustang. the seat of the pants feeling of the instant throttle response. my subaru makes the same power but has nothing below 4000rpms.
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#468800 - 10/13/06 10:13 AM
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I have a 2000 trans am with catback, raced my friends I/H/E spec v. from a 5 mph roll he hangs dead even with me to 60. From 45mph he puts 3 car lengths on me then i walk past him hard. The throttle response and gearing in those cars is amazing. For reference my T/A ran a [Email]13.4@106mph[/Email]
I don't know what to say to you if you fall 3 lenghts back racing a Spec V in an LS1. I dunno, maybe downshift, or don't sleep at the start? The LS1 has more than double the torque of the Spec V at any point in the power band.
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#468801 - 10/13/06 04:06 PM
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LS14Winter
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You are correct but you neglect other factors in racing. Power to weight ratio and gearing. My trans am has 2.73 gears (a4) from 45mph its a dog. to high for first to low for second. My trans am weighed in at 3674 with less then 1/4 tank of gas and me in it. Spec V weighs about 2800 plus the driver...
even 5mph - 60mph the spec v pulls half a car by 60 im gaining that back and starting to pass him. After 70 its murder for the spec v. My post is just to show the spec v has incredible throttle response and torque (for a 4 cylinder.)
Nowdays my T/A isnt near stock. I have full bolt ons, big cam, 3400 stall with full lockup it would be totally different now. I think i should be in the low 12's with a trap of 113-115 (traction depending)
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#468806 - 10/15/06 10:01 AM
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.
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#468807 - 10/15/06 10:20 AM
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Nathan
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It has v8 like torque
I bet a 4.6 Mustang has W16-like torque then?
LOL!!! Actually a 4.6 mustang would feel like a Honda Civic DX. The 4.6 is a marvel of technology, it has a long stroke but no torque. Its overhead cam but doesnt rev.
Its a turd. (not purtaining to the DOHC 4.6)
What do you think this is, 1996?
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#468811 - 10/16/06 07:10 AM
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NHRATA01
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.
So better to make the 350Z race his gas I guess. Even though an Si is cannon fodder for a Z but could easily lose to a Spec V.
Nothing like econobox elitism.
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#468812 - 10/16/06 02:21 PM
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daemon
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We're letting the 06si owners take over SvA
You could have used this post to call the newbs ricer faggots and tell them to drive into a tree enstead of whining about it.
End yourself with a tree while sucking a rice dick fags!!!!
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#468813 - 10/16/06 03:31 PM
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#468814 - 10/16/06 04:11 PM
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.
Come on dude your car is a lot closer to a spec V in acceleration than it is to a 350z. spec v runs mid 15s most of the time si runs low 15s most of the time. 350z runs low 14s most of the time.
Get a clue.
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#468815 - 10/16/06 07:12 PM
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daemon
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why are we even talking about se r spec v shits? i killed one....just to shut up the guy inside it. i wont even race them, its not worth my gas. its like racing a focus. a 350z is another story.
The power of Christ compels you, bitch!
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#468816 - 10/17/06 03:51 AM
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#468817 - 10/18/06 11:42 AM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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lol @ this thread.
p.s. i had no problems trapping 95-96 in my car
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#468819 - 10/19/06 12:02 AM
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......nothing like having top end w/o the use of VTEC, unlike our Hondas....
Fixed.
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#468820 - 10/19/06 07:24 AM
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#468821 - 10/19/06 09:56 AM
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#468822 - 10/19/06 09:59 AM
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#468825 - 11/14/06 08:52 AM
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These people on here amaze me....you on the other hand....go F##k yourself asshole.
Wait, you bumped a thread that was dead for over a month just to say that? He's right, you really are an idiot.
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#468827 - 11/14/06 02:03 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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What amazes me is anyone who buys a new SI- why?
Cheap, reliable, 200HP being enough for me at the moment.
I didn't quite have more than 20k to spend on a car.
you know there is a thing called USED cars.
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#468828 - 11/14/06 02:59 PM
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i own a 05 spec v. it has decent power and great torque. i think its the torque that makes the car great. i love the civic si especially the 99 body but i just ended up getting the spec instead. if i could do it again, id get the 99 si for sure. the only bad thing about the spec is the interior is not all to great. if people want something different to fix up, i would say the spec is a good alternative to the civic, bc there are alot of civics out on the streets.
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#468829 - 11/14/06 05:45 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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i own a 05 spec v. it has decent power and great torque. i think its the torque that makes the car great. i love the civic si especially the 99 body but i just ended up getting the spec instead. if i could do it again, id get the 99 si for sure. the only bad thing about the spec is the interior is not all to great. if people want something different to fix up, i would say the spec is a good alternative to the civic, bc there are alot of civics out on the streets.
the only thing that makes the spec-v *ok* not great is that it can be had for ~15k
the spec-v has literally no aftermarket support, and the items it gets brake other parts(B&M shifter). The seats are nice. I probably had one of the fastest minimal modded spec-vs and it was only a mid 14 seconds...
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