#4370949 - 12/24/09 06:35 PM
I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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ewraven
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Anyone know much about these things? The site I ordered them from said that 5000k is the closest that the OEM ones are. As such, I ordered 5000k. I only hope that the 5000k isn't too bright for oncoming traffic.
I wouldn't have done this, but the Cube headlights really aren't all that great. And since I Cube a lot out in the woods, I really really need good headlamps.
I got them from here... http://www.hidextra.com/
The coupon code and instructions for its use are here, it expires January 4th... http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=466963&page=1
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#4370950 - 12/24/09 06:36 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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Needs more 4300k.
And by Bi-Xenon, do you mean a separate bulb for the highbeams, or a movable shield?
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#4370954 - 12/24/09 06:40 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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ewraven
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The lowest they have is 5000k for the type I use.
They call it a bi-xenon "telescopic bulb"... http://www.hidextra.com/HID+Conversion+K...ersion+Kit.html
Edit: they are both Low Beam and High Beam HID
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#4371064 - 12/24/09 08:33 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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I just got thinking about if they were made in China, then I read this on there site just now...
WHY OUR BALLASTS ARE CONSIDERED THE BEST QUALITY :
The most advanced HID ballasts made in China use a CPU programming controller (Digital Ballast). The program is so easy to copy that an electrical engineer could easily make this type of ballast in his living-room. This is why HID makers in China have grown so rapidly. These types of ballasts are not capable of real-time lamp monitoring (lamp current always changing). The operation is not smooth and safe, and then it causes many problems from electrical damage to possible fire loss. We used to sell these so called “Super Digital Ballasts”. The price was good and the quality was ok at first, and then a few months into our new product line the phone calls came pouring in. Blub out, ballast out, color faded, warning light on the dash, flicker problems, etc. Many customers always say that an HID system that is made in China is no good, and their one year warranty is difficult. In our testings of ballasts, we concluded the supposed 2000-3000 work hours were really only 500-1000 hours. Analog ballasts which most other sellers use only lasted 200-300 hours.
ASIC HIDExtra ballasts are equipped with an ASIC chipset controller which, is the same type as HELLA(BMW, Mercedes HID Manufacturer); Matsushida (Nissan HID Manufacturer), etc. This type of chipset is very difficult to design, and cost our Engineering Department $600,000 to develop. This chipset has the capabilities of real-time lamp-monitoring and protection. HIDExtra chipset stabilizes the unit for perfect function at all times in all conditions. This crucial point is why our HID ballasts can last up to 10,000 Hours without any problems. HID bulb life is 5,000 hours using our ballast, compared to only 2,000 hours using CPU controller found in China ballasts. HIDExtra HID systems can be put in a class of quality that very few companies can reach. If you look at any company in our class you’ll see they all charge $1,000 + for the same system.
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#4371224 - 12/24/09 10:04 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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Dude, you KNOW that with this kind of shit, you get you pay for. $84 HIDs? Gimme a break. Like you said, they're not much more than a pair of Silverstars. If things were actually getting that much cheaper to manufacture, Silverstars would cost a helluva lot less. And BTW, Silverstars fucking suck.
I predict your OEM lights are going back in your car approx. 1 hour after you get the HIDs installed.
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#4371325 - 12/24/09 10:42 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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I think the OP should have just installed some relays and been done with it.
Also, be prepared for all the pissed off drivers you are blinding by dropping HID's into reflector housings
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#4371393 - 12/24/09 11:22 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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DRL's?
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#4371421 - 12/24/09 11:37 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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The kit will come with relays I assume..
I was more referring to using relays with the stock lights. Pulling power directly from the battery instead of through the stock wiring harness will usually lead to way better light output.
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#4371541 - 12/25/09 01:06 AM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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In reflector housings, these are going to be the worst. No offense, but I hate when cars coming the other way at me have this setup. A great way to blind oncoming traffic.
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#4371569 - 12/25/09 01:21 AM
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LOL, reminds me of the guys here in Okinawa running those cheap China HIDs. One of my friends went through three sets in 6 months. He finally gave up. I was tempted to throw a pair on the Skyline but waited it out when he told me the price and that they were made in China.
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#4371855 - 12/25/09 09:37 AM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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I think the OP should have just installed some relays and been done with it. Also, be prepared for all the pissed off drivers you are blinding by dropping HID's into reflector housings
I think he's referring to these: headlight hardwire kits
I've had them in EVERY car I've owned since '96 The wagon is the only exception, soley because the lights are REALLY bright, as-is.
The 90Gs-t showed the most dramatic difference. BIG difference when I replaced the wire from the alternator to the fuse-box, and HUGE difference when I installed this harness with an h4 conversion.
even bigger improvement when I went from 55/60w h4s to 75/90w bulbs.
ps.. Dan, and anyone with a 1Ga, I recommend the upgrades I listed for night-driving.
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#4372530 - 12/25/09 06:15 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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The kit looks like the Coway HID kits sold for the F-body's. I had the coway kit on the firebird, and one bulb went after a little over a year. One of the ballast is now bad after 3 years.
Here's the kit I bought.
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#4372649 - 12/25/09 07:34 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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[quote=LNXGUY]
ps.. Dan, and anyone with a 1Ga, I recommend the upgrades I listed for night-driving. 1g lights SUCK!!! PM me the exact kit you bought. I'm drunk right now and can't figure it out from the page you linked.
you would need 3 things
1: headlight harness
2: H4 conversion "bulbs" ebay
Osram night breakers
Puts you right about $100, but if you daily a 1ga, and drive at night, it's a HUGE upgrade.
If you haven't, make a nice 6G double-eyelet'd wire to run straight from the alternator to the main maxifuse. the original wiring is shit.
Edited by g96nt (12/25/09 07:35 PM)
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#4373912 - 12/26/09 03:39 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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I hope these aren't shitty ones. I guess I am going to be finding out.
In any case, I"ll be keeping the OEM bulbs stored in the Cube just in case I need them.
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#4374019 - 12/26/09 05:10 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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#4374090 - 12/26/09 05:42 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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You can get HID bulbs with dual bulbs for bixenon or a moveable shield.
I know it's fucked, but I've seen them
I still need to get those TL projectors retro'd into the Jetta.
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#4374136 - 12/26/09 06:12 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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how would it turn on on its own? sounds like a wiring/electrical issue to me. did you use relays when you wired it up?
Yes. They were wired correctly. It was literally a +/- connection through relays, but it only used one existing light bulb plug in to turn both bulbs on (the other stock plug would be left unplugged). IIRC, it had something to do with the SRT-4's DRL's being wired with the headlights. It wouldn't just randomly turn on, but when you started the car, sometimes the HID's went on instead of the DRL's and once they were on, only turning the car off could change that.
lack of high beams? its called bi xenon projector.
No shit? Thanks for that insight. At the time, they didn't make those in a kit and most people talked about how great the low beams were, so high beams weren't required. The cutoff was pretty good, so I thought I still needed some decent high beams since I did a good bit of country and night driving.
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#4374934 - 12/27/09 12:19 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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I agree....
headlights seem to be a perennial topic here, though.
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#4378069 - 12/28/09 06:33 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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Found out somthing the other day. If you have a mid 90s GM with auto headlights , don't put in HIDs.
A co-worker installed some on his lumina and it cooked the headlight swtich.
He didn't bother to install relays?
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#4378341 - 12/28/09 09:03 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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No sir. He did deffinately install relays.He had installed this same set of HIDs into his CRX ,in which they work great. They are a hella kit at 4300k, and even in the stock CRX non-projector houseing , they are way way brighter then stock bulbs. They are even way brighter then the 80 watt bulbs with relays.
If he installed relays, how the fuck did he melt his headlight switch?
The entire point of the relay is to skip the shitty stock wiring and pull power directly from the battery.
That's fucked up
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#4378846 - 12/29/09 12:42 AM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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I just discovered this awesome article about HID conversion kits... http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
I did not realize that these things were illegal for road use and Daniel Stern's article makes a lot of sense just reinforcing what some of you are have posted.
That HID kit should be here at my house on Thursday. I guess I'll return it. I don't even want to try it out now after reading that article.
Oh well, so much for that nutswinging episode!
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#4379323 - 12/29/09 09:46 AM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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I ran a set of HID dropins in a pair ecodes in my Jetta a while ago. Light was way better then stock and I never got highbeamed by anyone.. The kit I had did have a lower shield though, which helped a lot with the glare.
They've been removed and I am currently running stock lights again waiting to do a retro with some TL bi-xenon projectors.
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#4379707 - 12/29/09 12:38 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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Word? I've had really good luck with Silverstars I've never had much luck with them. They are expensive here, I've had them burn out within a year and never really noticed more light. I tried Nighthawks too - again, no noticeable light increase. I'd be tempted to try a higher wattage bulb and use relays. This is why I just try and find a car with HID's stock (or at least projectors).
I've used and sold just about every aftermarket bulb on the market. Nighthawks are garbage so are sliverstars. The only bulb i've liked are PIAAs, although they are expensive. I had a pair of PIAA 9006s in the grand am for over 3 years before I crashed it.
I've seen a great deal of HID conversions around here , most of them we sell out of our store. Yes some of the time they don't do much better then stock bulbs , however i've seen many that produce much better then stock light. As long as you stay below the 8k color spectrum you won't get an hassle for the law either.
Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.
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#4379833 - 12/29/09 01:37 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.
than any kit thrown in a halogen housing...yes, but not better than a projector retro fit . that wil depend on the quality of the job and the actual projector. bmw not having the best...(not knocking at all. ive run e60 projectors in my civic for 3+ yrs)
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#4380144 - 12/29/09 03:27 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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LNXGUY
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Any of you guys running 9005 or 9006 bulbs try the Toshiba H1R's?
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#4380511 - 12/29/09 05:49 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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Still nothing is as good a proplery designed projector with an HID , my 530 has better beam projection then any retro fit kit.
than any kit thrown in a halogen housing...yes, but not better than a projector retro fit . that wil depend on the quality of the job and the actual projector. bmw not having the best...(not knocking at all. ive run e60 projectors in my civic for 3+ yrs)
Thats pretty much what i meant. I've seen lots of aftermarket projector coversions with HIDs that are great.
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#4380899 - 12/29/09 09:18 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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The H1R's are also used in John Deere farm tractors... I think I might try a set in the ZR2 when the current bulbs take a shit.
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#4381027 - 12/29/09 10:38 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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Is there any good way to get OEM-like HIDs in a not originally equipped vehicle? I'd like to upgrade mine (with a drop in kit.)
well if yuo dont want to do the retro yourself(which isnt hard..just takes some time) im sure you can find someone somewhat near you who will do it for you OR who sells them already done. ive seen that for most cars in the last couple yrs. theres always 1 guy(or so it seems) of each type of popular light making a wack of them and just selling the lights with the projector already installed. you just wire in your kit and off you go.
check hid planet forums(they are very helpful) and your suby board of choice. im sure someone is offering that service for your car.
there might even be a local shop that will do it for you(but obviously youd want to see finished products first)
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#4417903 - 01/11/10 10:46 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0
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Any of you guys running 9005 or 9006 bulbs try the Toshiba H1R's?
I'm using them for my high beams in my legacy. The HIR bulbs have a special glass shape and coating that reflects alot of the heat produced by the filament back into itself to produce more heat and as a result more light. My wife has an RDX and the H1Rs kick her stock high beams to the damned curb. It's real bad. I also run the Osram rally bulbs that are 65w watts for low beams which are very good for a non-HID setup. Someone mentioned Daniel Stern above, that is the guy to ask about optimum bulb setup for the cube or any car. He suggested the bulbs for my car and I couldn't be happier.
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#4417925 - 01/11/10 10:55 PM
Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.0
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Cool Dan, I was hoping to get some feedback from someone who had tried them out. Looks like I'm going to order a set for the truck.
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#4421991 - 01/13/10 08:25 AM
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http://hirheadlights.com/
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Re: I just ordered a bi-xenon HID kit for the Cube for $84.00
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