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#4240493 - 11/11/09 02:17 AM Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting?
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I have a severe lack of lighting in my garage that I notice mostly when waxing the car.

Noticing that automotive paint booths almost always have florescent tube lighting; is that the best for when working on the paint of a car?

I presently have the garage door opener lights(useless) and a fixture that is perpendicular to the car that is two 8 foot florescent bulbs. That fixture is towards the front of the garage and so leaves a lot of shadows towards the back of the car.

Thinking about it, I could go with halogen which produces ALOT of heat(lol Texas) and then tend to burn out quickly too. I could go with more florescent tubes which isn't a problem, I can just install two more eight foot pairs of lights up on either side of the garage ceiling. I really see very little downside to this, other than I need to check on the current draw, if it isn't bad, I could get em wired into the fixture that is already up there.

ORRRRRR, I could go with like three fixtures on either side of the garage which have the ability to be aimed. I can put some LED bulbs in each of those. The only drawback to this is that those bulbs aren't super bright. But they do produce a very white type of light I think. For those bulbs though, Sam's Club sales them for 14 dollars for a two pack. I've got two in my house already and like the light quality quite a bit. They just are only equivalent to something like a 40 watt incandescent bulb is all.
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#4240618 - 11/11/09 07:57 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ewraven]
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my garage has 2 double flourescent "fixtures".
both are about 4" from the ends of the garage, so that if I back in, or nose-in, I can get the lights right over the engine-bay.

I also have a small contractors light (200W, I think), that I tote around like most would use a drop-light. it can hang from the roof-beams, or set on the floor. the beam is big, and bright, so it will fill-in any gaps that theroof-lighting might leave.

of course, I have a little pen-light that is worth it's weight in gold, because no matter how many over/under lights you have, you almost ALWAYS need light where you can't get it.

it ain't much, and it's a mess in this picture because the Eclipse was in it for 1.5 yrs, but you get the idea.


This is where all the magic happens:




Edited by g96nt (11/11/09 08:59 AM)
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#4240632 - 11/11/09 08:07 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
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I have a 4" florescent fixture with fish tank bulbs (the thin ones). They have magnetic ballast (not a real ballast) so they still start in sub freezing temperatures. I hung them such that with the hood open they shine directly on the engine bay. I also have a variety of wired and wireless handheld shop lights I like the one from craftsman that has a 110vac plug built into the housing. That way you can hang the light by the hook and you have AC to plug a tool into. The cheap black and decker battery LED light is great for looking or working on something that I don't feel like dragging the AC over to do or to position for light when welding a cage in the car.
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#4240755 - 11/11/09 08:54 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: danl]
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I have three basic 4ft flourescent tube fixtures (I might get a fourth as well) in my 1.5 car garage. The garage is house-attached and insulated so it stays warm enough to fire them up in winter. Inexpensive and they plug into outlets so you don't have to wire them up (I wired in a couple of outlets up high though). They light up all the imperfections in your paint very well.
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#4245402 - 11/12/09 05:01 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: allan r]
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lots and lots of flourescent lights.
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#4245440 - 11/12/09 05:15 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: Nealoc187]
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My garage has 1 4' florecent light at the front (near house door) and 4 - 4' quad tube lights on the sides(two on each side) but I also painted the walls gloss white and the floor has the light grey epoxy covering on it. It s very bright in my garage when I have all the lights on. I love it.

As for the fixtures, I bought the quad tube lights at Home Depot. I opted for the "industrial" versions because of the translucent covering was nicer/heavier.

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#4245878 - 11/12/09 07:39 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: Scargoes]
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Cool, I'll go with florescent lighting then.

Thanks for the help guys.

I'll probably buy the fixtures from Lowe's but will take a look at Home Depot too.
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#4246013 - 11/12/09 08:34 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ewraven]
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If anthing, just get the shatter-resistant tubes, and call it a day.
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#4246576 - 11/12/09 11:56 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
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Use some T5 fluorescent lights, that should brighten it up.

http://www.ultraluxlight.com/?gclid=CIPr3Yqkh54CFcgn2god10c-og

We installed six of the serpentine shaped lights in place of the regular 400 watt lights, and it was almost blinding one for one. They went back and took three down, and it's still brighter than the six 400 watt old lights.

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#4248070 - 11/13/09 12:42 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: CommonGutterTrash]
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 Originally Posted By: g96nt
Covers = dead bug collectors.
If anthing, just get the shatter-resistant tubes, and call it a day.


For the lights over my workbench, I bought clear tubes that slip over the bulbs, they have caps on the ends, so bugs won't be getting in there, and I doubt they'll keep the bulb from shattering, but at least they'll hold all the shards.

After having some mediocre setups in the past I did the electric in my new garage right (well, as good as I could). Subpanel out to the garage, 100A circuit for the big TIG (not pictured), lights and outlets on separate circuits, so when you're running a grinder or something, and pop a circuit, the lights don't go out, etc.

I wanted to get booth style lighting in the walls, but real booth lights are very expensive. Apparently they're "explosion proof" due to the fumes in a spray booth. I don't spray in the garage, but just wanted nice lighting on the sides of the car. It's nice being able to do brake/suspension work and not need a drop light that's always in the way.

Here's the garage just after it got dropped off. It's 12x40, with the last 10' separated to use as a tool room. It's nice to have the compressor out of the work area. After working in there for a few years, I wish I went for the 14' wide. an extra foot on each side would be nice.



I insulated with normal fiberglass insulation except where I was putting in the lights I used a product called "Reflectix" behind the lights. It's pretty much foil backed bubble wrap. I figured it would both insulate and reflect light.



After paneling:



You can see how well it lights up the side of whatever's in the garage.



I added diffusers over the lights. I don't think it helps the light quality at all, but it finishes it off, and once I slipped and kind of fell into the diffuser, cracking it, but it may have kept me from falling into the lights. The diffuser is much cheaper to replace, and isn't going to cut someone if thy fall into it.



This pic was just in the same folder. It's my "what not to do" shop safety poster. Unchained bottles, jumbled, loose hoses and cables, dirty workbench, but look how well the side of the Corvette is lit!



Along with the 4 in-wall lights, I have 6 fixtures in the ceiling, and 2 over the workbenches at the back of the garage. My advice is to install double the amount of lights you think you might need, you can always turn a few off. You pretty much can't have to much light, and the fixtures are cheap to both buy and run.

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#4250308 - 11/14/09 08:04 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: MikeY2kSS]
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Mike, the side lights are a great idea! I never thought of that. What year is the Corvette? 68 or 69? My dad had a '69 427 convertible once upon a time.
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#4251434 - 11/14/09 08:35 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: MikeY2kSS]
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That is nice Mike, I like the idea for the side lights.

Shatter resistant covers for the tubes is a very good idea too. I've seen those at Lowe's and had forgotten about them.

My Uncle is a master electrician, I can get him to wire up the lights to the existing fixture/switch. At least he will do it correctly versus myself fudging my way through it.

lol I was thinking that if I did it myself, I could put regular plugs on them and plug them into the outlet in the ceiling for the garage door opener and then turn them off and on via one of those wireless switch things that are made for Christmas lights. I've got some that are white that would work. But, having it done right would definitely be best!
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#4251585 - 11/14/09 10:24 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ]
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Oh yeah, that is a good idea to paint the walls glossy white.

As it is, the walls are textured, just not painted. I really should have painted them before building all of that stuff in there.
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#4251984 - 11/15/09 01:41 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ewraven]
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Corvette is my old '72 barn find. This is how I found it, in an actual barn.



4 speed, factory AC, nicely optioned.

Wound up selling it as a half done project. There's now a '65 Mustang fastback sitting in it's place.

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#4253369 - 11/15/09 08:02 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: MikeY2kSS]
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I am jealousy. I want a 65-66 fastback. Pics!!
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#4254515 - 11/16/09 10:23 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ]
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I have 4 sets of fluorescent fixtures that each have 2x8foot 100 watt bulbs in my main garage. The lighting is plentiful but in the winter if the garage is open for to long and the heater is off they get pretty dim.

The only change I wish I would have more than the one single incandescent bulb. I also wish I would have wired in more switches so its not all or nothing. Its not that often I need 800 watts of florescent bulbs lighting up the place.


I highly suggest the 8 foot bulbs even though they are a pain to dispose of being so long.

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#4255086 - 11/16/09 01:32 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: Case_of_the_EX]
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I ordered two of these this morning...

Designers Edge Diamond Plate Pro Series Plus Shop Light

They are only four feet, but I think they will work just fine in my garage on either side of the car.



Speaking of recycling old florescent tubes, what is one supposed to do with them? I've had an eight footer sitting in the garage for over a year that I just don't know what to do with.

I know that the real threat of them is the mercury vapor gas or something that is released when they are broken. I'm thinking of putting it in a garbage bag and breaking it outside down wind from me or something. At least that way it would fit in the garbage can.
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#4255497 - 11/16/09 04:13 PM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: ewraven]
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Oh yeah, I forgot to show this to you guys...



It is a vertical florescent worklight and costs $39.98. It says in the details that it is 63 inches tall. Looks like it could come in decently handy. I found it on the Lowes website.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=212004-337-GL600&lpage=none
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#9189957 - 11/17/17 08:55 AM Re: Garage spinoff, what is some good garage lighting? [Re: dongdong]
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