#4197403 - 10/27/09 01:33 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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As far as styling goes, I'd say the MS6 is a better looking car than the Legacy GT. That being said, I'd take the Legacy GT in a heartbeat.
Please don't buy a Mazdaspeed6.
-Leaky transfer cases like whoa -Smoking turbos that eventually crap out -Under-engineered motor. As they approach 100k miles more and more owners are shooting rod 4 through the block. -Mushy stock motor mount must be replaced. Do a 1-2 shift on a stock MS6 and you will laugh out loud. -Power band completely dies after 5.5k rpms. Puke and die like you've never felt before. -Part throttle bucking/surging/stuttering issues -Eats axles -Weak/defective rear differentials -Plasticy rattletrap interior -Needs a diet
Spend some time over at Mazda6Club. Every other post on there is about something that's wrong with the car.
It looks great on paper. I loved the utility and overall driving habits of the car. Turned out to be the worst automotive decision I've ever made.
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#4197552 - 10/27/09 01:58 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Point taken. Wow, didn't realize it was that bad! Good thing I didn't buy one new! (I should say though, I've never had a single rattle in my regular Mazda6)
I really wouldn't want you to go through anything like I did. I'm not just made at Mazda (anymore). The testimonials are everywhere. Others with MS-6s will probably chime in.
I'm not really convinced on the LGT. I'd still have a hard time finding a not-modded used one. Plus I get the feeling that the back seat isn't all that much bigger than mine as it is. (Of course I could keep my summer wheels I already have, eh?)
That's funny. I'd expect 90% of them to be stock since it's so Camry-ish. I doubt it has much more room than the WRX and I'm way too lazy to look up the dimensions.
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#4197715 - 10/27/09 02:30 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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S2000, strap the kids to the trunk and hood!!
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#4197753 - 10/27/09 02:36 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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That's funny. I'd expect 90% of them to be stock since it's so Camry-ish. Yeah, same here.
What's your budget like?
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#4197813 - 10/27/09 02:46 PM
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Factory Forced Induction cars are all prone to retarded problems, it really depends on when and if you want to deal with it.
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#4197925 - 10/27/09 03:06 PM
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Factory Forced Induction cars are all prone to retarded problems, it really depends on when and if you want to deal with it. That's what I was leading towards. Kinda pointless to go that route when you don't plan on modding and are looking for a reliable family hauler.
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#4197938 - 10/27/09 03:08 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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I'm not really convinced on the LGT. I'd still have a hard time finding a not-modded used one. Plus I get the feeling that the back seat isn't all that much bigger than mine as it is. (Of course I could keep my summer wheels I already have, eh?)
That's funny. I'd expect 90% of them to be stock since it's so Camry-ish. I doubt it has much more room than the WRX and I'm way too lazy to look up the dimensions.
True probably, regarding the automatic ones. I'd bet on a hard time finding a never-modded manual one though.
Not really looking for a wagon and I don't like the Forester anyhow. What I really need is backseat space where the benefit of a wagon is in the rear. My Mazda for instance has a pretty big trunk.
The thing about this situation that chaps my ass is that I can (reasonably) fit three grown people into the back of my WRX, but because all kids seats are enormously bubbly and huge I you can barely fit three pipsqueaks back there?!?! I'm really on a quest to find the right combination of the slimmest kid's seats, if anyone's been down that road speak up!!
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#4198451 - 10/27/09 05:51 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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If you're on your third kid, couldn't one of them sit in a booster seat in the middle?
I have a Britex seat, and it's awesome but gigantic (and expensive). We have a Cosco seat in the Volvo and it's much smaller. The "Recaro" seats look relatively narrow too.
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#4198589 - 10/27/09 06:32 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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allan r
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#4198800 - 10/27/09 07:46 PM
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When I saw the first baby seat I thought, "That is the stupidest looking helmet I've ever seen.".
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#4199031 - 10/27/09 08:57 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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I was (barely) able to fit 3 carseats (2 carseats and a booster) in the backseat of my 98 Legacy 2.5GT wagon, so I would imagine the newer Legacy to have a bit more room. Why not look at a V6 manual Mazda6 (I know you have one in the family already)? Or you can suck it up and buy a minivan/SUV lol soccer-mom.
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#4199280 - 10/27/09 10:53 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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I bought a pearl white loaded MS6 GT with a $33K sticker for $22k brand new, drove it a year, sold it to someone in Washington for $22k.
I loved the color, it was a decent looking car, build quality was ok, handled ok... All I did was a track pipe and mazdaspeed intake, no way would I mod it beyond that. I actually really liked the car and at the time there was nothing at that price that would give me leather, AWD, 6 speed, 276 hp, HIDs, keyless start, sunroof, etc.
The reason I sold it was the fucking Bose stereo, it was painfull, possibly the biggest piece of shit "premium" stereo next to my wifes MINI Cooper's. I hate the way aftermarket radios look in most new cars, I am not paying 2k for speakers, amp, and a JL cleansweep to get decent sound so I fucking sold it.
How about a Saab 9-7x Areo? Or an 06 330xi? Or a 04-06 545i/550i?
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#4200158 - 10/28/09 10:37 AM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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The ugly:
Styling, shitty AWD system, puking turbos, weak top end, power loss in summer, gross interior materials, ugly ass styling that is ugly and gross.
The good: Should be cheap used since they are total piles of shit.
Result:
Get an LGT. ORLY? My LGT turbo blew at 59,500 and transmission was on its way out.
n word please
the banjo bolt screen filter gets clogged by lack of oil changes and eats the turbo. Normal vf40 thing, pull the filter out, or follow the TSB by the dealership. 100+k turbo
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#4200341 - 10/28/09 11:26 AM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Adam G
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The ugly:
Styling, shitty AWD system, puking turbos, weak top end, power loss in summer, gross interior materials, ugly ass styling that is ugly and gross.
The good: Should be cheap used since they are total piles of shit.
Result:
Get an LGT. ORLY? My LGT turbo blew at 59,500 and transmission was on its way out. n word please the banjo bolt screen filter gets clogged by lack of oil changes and eats the turbo. Normal vf40 thing, pull the filter out, or follow the TSB by the dealership. 100+k turbo That's the first thing I asked about when the dealership tore it down. They said the banjo bolt filter was clean. Lots of them seem to go out right around the same mileage, I was just lucky that I got in under 60k miles.
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#4200346 - 10/28/09 11:29 AM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Can't you just straddle the third seat in the middle on top of the other two? Pyramid that shit! lol.
edit: Oh, and I second all the Bose comments. My dad is a huge Bose fan and I don't know why. I have a Bose system in my RSX, and while it's not bad (actually the best I've had in any car I've owned, but that isn't saying much) it's not up to par with a lot of other cars I've driven/been in.
Aftermarket radio helps the Bose System in the RSX. I am slowly replacing mine. Just installed some Alpine components this weekend up front. Now I need to replace my 2 channel amp with a 3 channel.
Edit: the Fosgate(Clarion) system in the Spec-v was actually pretty good for a stock radio.
Edited by HoustonRSX (10/28/09 11:29 AM)
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#4200392 - 10/28/09 11:43 AM
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Minivan = No. Fucking. Way. (especially when the primary family moving car is already sufficient). My parents never had one for us three kids. Hell my dad had a fox body Mustang when I was a teen!
fellfrosh, get out your tape measure and start planning! just have to find the right 3 seat combo. We're due in January, btw. Why not the bigger of the volvo wagons (v50? v70? hell if i know). seems like the back seat is pretty wide, and then you have what appears to be a cavernous hatch area. Every time i see one of those I think "Man, I can fit the dogs AND any kids we may or may not decide to have one day". True story. Saw one this morning. <3
V70 FTW!
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#4200505 - 10/28/09 12:22 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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double din radio or get a base rsx radio housing. 114 dollars for my components and they sound 10x better than the stock ones.
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#4200873 - 10/28/09 02:05 PM
Re: What's the ugly on the Mazdaspeed6?
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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get a base rsx radio housing. That...and then you'll have a pocket for CD's
I have one now with the Metra kit.
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