my turd churned out low 15's @ 90-91 mph years ago. 15.1 @ 91 is fwd ratio shit. not awd
a properly launched awd car pulling a 15.1 would be in the 88 mph range

Your turd isn't stock, though. Besides your blatant Honda bias, you aren't that bad. I can think of worse SvA posters.

That's an endorsement!

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stock 14 sec talons are like stock 12 sec fbods

My stock Eclipse (yes it was bone stock down to the never changed air filter) went 15.9 at 98mph back in 2001. With a K&N it went 99mph.

Honestly if your talon is only going low 90mph its not healthy. AWD's have better gearing and should feel much more peppy in the canadian air than a B16 civic. If it is honestly going into boost at 2800 like a stock car and fizzling out at 3800 then the knock sensor is pulling timing. Its an old car, things like this will happen. For a fact, the car in bone stock form should hold 11psi to redline and it should pull well to 6000. You should not feel a need to shift anytime before 6000 if it is pulling well. If its not, then its sick. Its not going to blow up or anything, it just needs a little TLC, like most DSM's out their.

A stock AWD should be trapping mid 90's in all but scorching summer heat. With a crisp evening should be damm near 100mph as my friends and I regularly did back in the day.

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stock 14 sec talons are like stock 12 sec fbods

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Lolz, except back when there was such a thing as a stock 1G AWD, high 14's were pretty common. but for arguments sake lets go with looooooooooooooooow 15's vs. the Si's more common hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh 15's. Also so I'm clear here, you're comparing an "out of boost" 4G63's powerband to the complete powerband of a B16? Sooooooo then you're talking about response and power from idle to 2600? Ooooh man, what's next are you going to start the DSM in 5th gear and have it race against an Si (SiR in USA jr.) to 100 too?

My '90 AWD Talon, with 1-2 gallons of gas, all fluids full + 15-20 lbs of crap in the car, no driver: 3180 lbs

This thread belongs in the same X files compilation as the one where we had some brainiacs expounding on how low tech the Z06/ZR1 Corvette is.

Redonkulous.

Euphoric, my car was a FWD. High 15's is fairly normal for such a heavy fwd back then. If you have a MBC on the car and it isn't running 100mph then the car isn't running well. Also don't be hitting more than 14-15psi without a fuel pump, especially in the cold. You pretty much explained to me why your car pukes and dies. You don't want to listen so I won't try to help.

You pretty much explained to me why your car pukes and dies. You don't want to listen so I won't try to help.

ya and it shows what ive been saying...
has nothing in the low revs and then it shits itself.

]What's all this "driving out of boost" mess you keep talking about? Most 14b (stock) powered cars get full boost around 3k or less and still make more hp WHILE BUILDING boost than a stock B16. I posted two legitimate dyno's from hondata and a magazine that has no vested interest in the DSM which clearly show the the DSM is more powerful across pretty much the entire powerband.

The Si is indeed geared more aggressively but it pretty much has to be able to move itself.

The power numbers speak for themselves! The Talon has more hp and torque (by quite a bit actually) across the board. Granted it's in a heavier car but also a faster car.

Maybe it "feels" like a dog because it's not "zing zing brrrrrrrrrring de zinging" like you enjoy but it's still moving That's great that you own both, but it sounds like one of your cars needs a tune-up! At any rate I won't disagree that maybe YOUR talon is a dog compared to YOUR civic which.... Is your civic stock?

] That's great that you own both, but it sounds like one of your cars needs a tune-up! At any rate I won't disagree that maybe YOUR talon is a dog compared to YOUR civic which.... Is your civic stock?