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#3498980 - 02/20/09 07:32 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Scargoes]
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 Originally Posted By: Scargoes
sell the vette and mini and get a 997 GT2.

or a GT3RS


this guy speaks truth.

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#3500112 - 02/21/09 12:59 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
e60 m5 with some bolt ons and 6 spd would be super fucking win. the v10 sounds so sweet uncorked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTnljSYrazg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5h2RNaL0Wg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJbZxnuZ20w

The lack of torque makes them awful daily drivers. They are only worth it if you are going 110+ on the highway.

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#3500158 - 02/21/09 01:27 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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 Originally Posted By: Adam G
 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
e60 m5 with some bolt ons and 6 spd would be super fucking win. the v10 sounds so sweet uncorked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTnljSYrazg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5h2RNaL0Wg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJbZxnuZ20w

The lack of torque makes them awful daily drivers. They are only worth it if you are going 110+ on the highway.


wat


thats the biggest bullshit ive ever read
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#3500198 - 02/21/09 01:46 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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A lot of cars are high strung and don't make a ton of low end torque.
Ferrari F355 for example, and yea thats a total pile to drive!
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#3500249 - 02/21/09 02:20 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Euphoricuck]
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 Originally Posted By: Euphoric
wat


thats the biggest bullshit ive ever read

Ever driven one? I have. My uncle owned one and just dumped it for the reason I specified.

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#3500253 - 02/21/09 02:21 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Chris_82]
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 Originally Posted By: Dank
A lot of cars are high strung and don't make a ton of low end torque.
Ferrari F355 for example, and yea thats a total pile to drive!

Daily drive? In stop and go traffic?

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#3500261 - 02/21/09 02:26 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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I think I'd be ok with that.

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#3500273 - 02/21/09 02:33 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Serendipitous]
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The weight and SMG tranny conspire to make things difficult when you have to stop and go. Like I said, it's a bad ass car for highway runs. But there are more fap worthy cars out there for dd.
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#3500427 - 02/21/09 03:58 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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I've heard the 6M is kinda crummy in terms of gearing and the SMG is poo, but I'd rock the shit out of one.
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#3500620 - 02/21/09 06:10 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Impulsive]
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pops is getting either an m5 or an m3 within a couple months, so i'll give ya guys insight after a thorough flogging
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#3500710 - 02/21/09 07:00 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: interpol]
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 Originally Posted By: interpol
pops is getting either an m5 or an m3 within a couple months, so i'll give ya guys insight after a thorough flogging

M3 ftw

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#3501714 - 02/22/09 10:31 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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I wasn't aware a car had to make 500 ft/lb @ 1500 to be daily driven
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#3501886 - 02/22/09 11:48 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Chris_82]
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Lol@ some of the suggestions. Hyundai? Crotch rocket?

Drove the M5, didnt really like it all that much. Too fucking complicated with all the doodads and 12430523 different engine/tranny/exhaust pipe diameter setting ftl.

Drove a new M3 coupe as well, nice car but didnt do it for me. Both cars rev for days, but I think I want something a little softer if its going to be just the one car.

Drove the new cooper S again, actually liked it. Maybe I'll trade the current mini for one and keep the vette.

A turbo porsche would turn into another project, plus I like the 997 way more but not for 100k.

The E55 at sub 30k is pretty tempting.

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#3502046 - 02/22/09 12:59 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C
I've driven several, modified and stock. 384 ft/lbs. Sure, it PEAKS high in the rev range, but there is plenty from down low. Your statement was WAY off base. Try pushing the power button, and maybe the throttle pedal, next time.

I'll admit that I've only driven it in anger a handful of times, but I'm only repeating what he told me about why he got rid of it. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that he knows how to drive, perhaps even more than you. *GASPOMGUNPOSSIBLE* His current DD is a 997 Turbo, before that it was a GT3. He's been road racing for almost 40 years. This is him behind the wheel of one of his race cars (Laguna, I believe)



Here's a site for the other

http://www.trans-amseries.com/Drivers/AndyBoone.htm

Before that it was a couple of Ferraris and at one point he was running around in Ricky Rudd's old Lumina NASCAR.

I know your e-persona dictates that you respond to all threads with feigned pompous superiority, but it doesn't fly too well in this particular instance. Or maybe you just love it because it has BMW on the hood. Beats me.


Edited by Adam G (02/22/09 01:00 PM)

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#3502130 - 02/22/09 01:46 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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so your dad is andy boone? sweet. get him to come out to the mopar show in April. the have buttonwillow raceway reserved for track time. the guy who sets up the track day has a clone of the gurney aar he vintage races with vara.


i know they have been trying to get that car out here in past years, maybe you can convince him.

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#3502151 - 02/22/09 01:55 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Scargoes]
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 Originally Posted By: Scargoes
so your dad is andy boone? sweet. get him to come out to the mopar show in April. the have buttonwillow raceway reserved for track time. the guy who sets up the track day has a clone of the gurney aar he vintage races with vara.


i know they have been trying to get that car out here in past years, maybe you can convince him.

He's my dad's stepbrother. Do you have a link with info for the show? I will forward it to him.

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#3502324 - 02/22/09 03:00 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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#3503839 - 02/23/09 12:00 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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I'm sorry but the V10 M5 is an absolute beast at all pts on the tach (friend owns one, driven it several times, many times a passenger) it launches like a beast on street tires and pulls like a proverbial freight train at ridiculous speeds. anyone saying that it lacks sufficient torque to be a DD is simply mistaken.

I don't care if its coming from Shumacher or Obama or shit even Oprah. The car is a fkucking animal. No manner of jaded uberweekendracer is going to make that statement any less wrong. And im not picking on him. Im sure his wallet is really, really large. awesome. He's still wrong

also, is somebody forgetting this is a 4-door sedan? What exactly is kicking the M5's ass in its class?

edit: i guess the cts-v and c63 amg run with it nicely

ok the low-end torch is a bit low for a car that runs a mid 12 @ 115 or so

um ok? but wouldnt that be discovered on a test drive or simply by looking at a dyno and the gear spacing? im sure you can just change the rear end: bam, problem solved

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#3503916 - 02/23/09 12:26 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I'm sorry but the V10 M5 is an absolute beast at all pts on the tach (friend owns one, driven it several times, many times a passenger) it launches like a beast on street tires and pulls like a proverbial freight train at ridiculous speeds. anyone saying that it lacks sufficient torque to be a DD is simply mistaken.

I don't care if its coming from Shumacher or Obama or shit even Oprah. The car is a fkucking animal. No manner of jaded uberweekendracer is going to make that statement any less wrong. And im not picking on him. Im sure his wallet is really, really large. awesome. He's still wrong

also, is somebody forgetting this is a 4-door sedan? What exactly is kicking the M5's ass in its class?

edit: i guess the cts-v and c63 amg run with it nicely





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#3504367 - 02/23/09 07:57 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I don't care if its coming from Shumacher or Obama or shit even Oprah.



Pakisho, check out the E55 and let us know what you think! Out of the 2, I've only driven the E55 but if you didn't like the M5, I'm not sure that you'd like the Benz either...
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#3504452 - 02/23/09 08:30 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C
 Originally Posted By: Dank
I wasn't aware a car had to make 500 ft/lb @ 1500 to be daily driven


Me either. Probably has something to do with my e-persona and feigned pompous superiority? Oh well, I'm sure second-hand information is worth making that sort of statement over...

EDIT: blah, nevermind. I've obviously got nothin on the BMW Rights League.


Edited by Adam G (02/23/09 08:36 AM)

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#3504625 - 02/23/09 09:33 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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lol @ M5 being a torqueless shitbox....

people are amazing.

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#3505180 - 02/23/09 11:58 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C
 Originally Posted By: Adam G
I've got nothin


This is all I'm seeing; sometimes an economy of words suits you better.

Remember where you said you have to hit the power button, as if it wasn't engaged when either of us were driving the thing? That was obviously condescending like everything you've ever posted, but it was unintentionally retarded. I hope that we can at least agree on that.

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#3505181 - 02/23/09 11:58 AM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: PatB18C
 Originally Posted By: bren si
lol @ M5 being a torqueless shitbox....

people are amazing.


Hey, if you can't trust the twice-removed word of a forum member's father's stepbrother, what can you trust?

Guys who will blow their load on anything with a BMW logo, that's who!

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#3505329 - 02/23/09 12:49 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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damn I expected to be flamed every way but Sunday over here and I'm a little dissapointed

but i guess i do see where say a champ car driver or whatever would see the M5 as a gutless shitbox. sure its all relative. but then again it isnt.
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#3505484 - 02/23/09 01:21 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
damn I expected to be flamed every way but Sunday over here and I'm a little dissapointed

but i guess i do see where say a champ car driver or whatever would see the M5 as a gutless shitbox. sure its all relative. but then again it isnt.

I never said it was gutless, just that it sucked stoplight to stoplight. It's obviously a superhero on the highway runs.

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#3505561 - 02/23/09 01:38 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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I guess I dont see it, it still 0-60s in the 4s on street tires, there really isnt a lot to be gained without running some kind of DR. you can always launch it harder if you want. Just rolling out at 5 mph in idle and nailing it theres a bit of a lag. I wouldnt say it sucks, gearing is just a little tall and you cant really launch it at idle and expect it to do anything. or really do anything sub about 2500 rpms. it just boggles my mind that someone would think the whole car sucks based on its roll-on performance from idle or whatever

it pulls just as hard as my chipped 335i from a stop,which runs ~12 psi instead of like 6.5... which I guess may or may not be a good thing depending on how you look at it (a completely stock 6-speed M5)

for an m5 driver i guess thats a bad thing, tbh. but an i6 TT is supposed to have a ton of grunt, and the M5 is right there. Sure a C6 Z06 kicks both of our asses easily (well, maybe not so much on street tires thats just gonna show who has more traction imo)
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#3505647 - 02/23/09 02:03 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
it just boggles my mind that someone would think the whole car sucks based on its roll-on performance from idle or whatever

FWIW, he has an SMG M3 sitting in a warehouse that he doesnt like either. He bought his wife a 335i vert and loves the thing. I guess that more torch down low and less SMG = win, as far as he's concerned. The GT3 wasn't exactly a stump puller and I didn't hear him bitch about that outside of it being nearly impossible to control on the street if there was any moisture. Maybe it's a transmission thing for him.

I certainly wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating crackers, of course. But it isn't at the top of my list for cars in that price range. The next gen M5 is supposed to have twins on the V10, so that might be a different story.


Edited by Adam G (02/23/09 02:05 PM)

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#3505658 - 02/23/09 02:07 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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alright, I'll accept that he's simply unreasonable :p


the ctsv surprisingly seems to 1-up the M5 in everything. zomg unpossible
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#3505674 - 02/23/09 02:13 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: stickaz_old]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
alright, I'll accept that he's simply unreasonable :p


the ctsv surprisingly seems to 1-up the M5 in everything. zomg unpossible

It'd be a tossup between M3 and CTS-V for me. I'd have to drive them both, but they are hopelessly out of my price range and will be for the foreseeable future.

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#3505698 - 02/23/09 02:24 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Adam G]
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sounds like he needs a padded dash and low end torque. Doesn't sound like a race car guy to me.

point proven that he doesnt like the M3 over sloppy heavy 335i vert.


Edited by bren si (02/23/09 02:24 PM)

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#3505709 - 02/23/09 02:30 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: bren si]
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 Originally Posted By: bren si
sounds like he needs a padded dash and low end torque. Doesn't sound like a race car guy to me.

point proven that he doesnt like the M3 over sloppy heavy 335i vert.

He has a new M3 as well, which he likes (6sp). The SMG M3 is a 2003 or something. It's collecting dust in a warehouse in Dallas.

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#3505732 - 02/23/09 02:37 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: Professor Paki]
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Paki,

You strike me as the type who never seems to be content with what he has and always wants something new and shiny. Hopefully it's only a personality trait, but I'm scared to ask if this whole new car idea is based on trying to keep up with Jones' in SoCalBrah who drive their Lambo/Ferrari/Benz/BMW
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#3506321 - 02/23/09 05:26 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: ]
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I'd like to drive a DCT as well. Mag reviews have been positive.
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#3506751 - 02/23/09 07:40 PM Re: Bored with the vette and the mini............. [Re: I am Jack's VR6]
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 Originally Posted By: I am Jack's VR6
Paki,

You strike me as the type who never seems to be content with what he has and always wants something new and shiny. Hopefully it's only a personality trait, but I'm scared to ask if this whole new car idea is based on trying to keep up with Jones' in SoCalBrah who drive their Lambo/Ferrari/Benz/BMW



I am NEVER SATISFIED!!!!

/Blades of Glory.


No, Im just bored with them. Something a little more exec that doesnt feel like a headon collision over every pothole would be nice. I dont see any correlation between that and wanting to be like all the other doods with $1500/mo leases that you secretly admire so much. \:D

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