#32484 - 03/27/03 04:12 PM
will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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zc911
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Guys for some more ummmf for my winter car, that setup was brought to my attention
I wouldn't mind trying it out, but don;t wanna rip aparts a prefectly good ZC and find it won;t fit
Anyone know?
Edited by zc911 (03/27/03 04:13 PM)
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#32485 - 03/27/03 04:19 PM
Re: will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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If I’m not mistaken the ZC is a DOHC no-VTEC motor. If that is correct it would be impossible to put a DOHC head on a SOHC motor.
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#32486 - 03/27/03 06:21 PM
Re: will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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zc911
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i confused 
The ZC is a 1.6L DOHC Non-VTEC motor, essentially a DOHC D-series
If i put a SOHC VTEC head on to the ZC block, from like a 92-95 Si, i get 12:1 compression .
So i figured why not 
But are you saying the SOHC VTEC head won;t fit a ZC block?
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#32488 - 03/27/03 06:32 PM
Re: will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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It;s jsut a cheap way to bump compression from 9:1 to 12:1.
The ZC and SOHC VTEC are both rated at 130hp.
If it won;t fit i'll pop the ZC pistons and rods out and sick them in a 88 SOHC motor and sick the SOHC VTEC head on that
Are the ZC rods the same length as D series?
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#32489 - 03/27/03 06:46 PM
Re: will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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You can do it, but it will take a little bit of customizing. Everything will line up except one of the corner head bolts. You need to "slot" that hole in the head to make it bolt up.
The reverse conversion (DOHC ZC/D16A1 head on a SOHC D series block) has been done a couple of times now.
For the amount of work involved, I would just get a cylinder head from an 88-89 Integra or another ZC head. They are essentially the same casting with a few minor differences (ZC has a different timing belt cover, 8 intake manifold bolts instead of 10, etc).
IMO, the 88-89 Integra and ZC heads have the most power potential of any D series head. It's not just because they are DOHC heads...they have the biggest valves of any D series head.
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#32490 - 03/27/03 07:16 PM
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zc911
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tahts who i was looking for
But i think you have it backwards of what i wanna do to, unless i read it wrong
i want to stick a SOHC HEAD on a ZC block.
I think what you said was i jsut have to slot the head for a head bolt to line up?
So just take a dremel and open it up a bit?
I wanted to do this becuase you get 12:1 compression, thats really all. I am sure the motor would run pretty damn nice with 12:1 compression and a SOHC VTEC head, maybe add a ZEX cam.
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#32491 - 03/27/03 07:33 PM
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You will need a different timing belt (not sure which one), and you should also clay the engine. The ZC/D16A1 piston has a very high dome.
That piston is also found in the 88-89 USDM Integra (D16A1).
This is the piston out of the D16Z6 (92-95 Civic Ex/Si):
This is the piston out of the D16Y8 (96+ Civic Ex):
As you can see, the Z6 and Y8 have very "dished" pistons.
Sonny
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#32492 - 03/27/03 07:38 PM
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zc911
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excellent thanks for the info much appreciated
so what do you think, is it worth it??
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#32494 - 03/27/03 07:54 PM
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hahah 
This is for afer that, it owuld be cool as hell to ahve the winter car remolty quick again
Right now it looks like shit, but it would be nice if it went like stink too
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#32495 - 03/27/03 08:34 PM
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I was thinking, “I should PM Sonny because I bet he knows if this will work”. Looks like he was all over this post 
Thanks for the help Sonny.
Maybe with all this time off I have, I should start researching the older Honda motors.
BTW, Sonny…….nice way to make sure your drill was level
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#32497 - 03/29/03 02:43 AM
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Man, if it were me, I'd just get a used ZC or 88-89 Integra head. I think you will lose power with the SOHC head and unless you've already got a VAFC, you're gonna have to get that or an RPM based switch to trigger the VTEC solenoid.
Additionally, the ZC's exhaust ports are about 10mm higher. The header will bolt on, but you'll have a mismatch there. The exhaust gasses will basically be hitting a small wall on exit.
This is a D16A6 (SOHC) manifold that I had to port so that it would fit on my D16A1.
There's a lot of little hassles considering it's only a temporary project. If it were more long-term, I'd consider doing it. For the money though, you can find a used ZC head for cheap. I just sold one of mine for $75 with cams and cam caps.
Sonny
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1993 Mazda RX-7 R1 (12 psi for now...)
1987 CRX Si hybrid (Work in progress...)
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#32498 - 03/29/03 09:08 AM
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zc911
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cool, actaully the ZC is alrady compelte and running in the car now
I guess i'll work on other ways to amke it faster
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#9089895 - 07/27/17 02:58 AM
Re: will a SOHC VTEC head fit a ZC block?
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