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| #1941980 - 10/12/07 04:27 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| SamuraiSam   Post Master Sr
 
 
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Wow, look at the driver's side tire pulling away from the rim.
 Yes, he did. His tire was inside the chalk, so he gets docked.
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| #1942058 - 10/12/07 07:23 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| Runnin@Redline   Jr Member
 
 
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Remember, it only counts if the cone is outside the chalk box, the tire inside the clalk does not matter!
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| #1942889 - 10/12/07 12:39 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| greenmaxse   Newbie
 
 
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 If the cone was still standing and any part of the cone was touching the box; then there's no penalty.
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| #1943408 - 10/12/07 02:49 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| samkarp   Post Master Sr
 
 
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Come on Adam, I have had much closer encounters than that!
 I am guessing that is the +1 on your 68.582+1 run...............
 
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| #1945718 - 10/13/07 06:37 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| super_nguyen   Post Master
 
 
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 If the cone was still standing and any part of the cone was touching the box; then there's no penalty. 
 thats how we define a cone penalty at our auto-x's its the "down and out" rule.
 
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| #1949315 - 10/15/07 09:23 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| greenmaxse   Newbie
 
 
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 If the cone was still standing and any part of the cone was touching the box; then there's no penalty. thats how we define a cone penalty at our auto-x's its the "down and out" rule. 
 That's standard SCCA regulations.  I've seen some clubs do it differently.  One club locally in Ct counts pointer cones, and I've seen some clubs only add 1 second per cone.  I prefer SCCA regs, plus it keeps it consistent.
 
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| #1950444 - 10/15/07 03:07 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| AX-NY'06Si   Jr Member
 
 
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 If the cone was still standing and any part of the cone was touching the box; then there's no penalty. 
 +1.
 
 But I think the question was whether the car actually hit the cone to result in the penalty.  My CSI (Crime Scene Investigation - not this website) skills say that the arm placement of the driver indicates that a countersteer is in progress and there is a 30% probability that the cone was left standing.
  
 Gorgeous pic BTW!  I have our last event this Friday, then off come the Azenis!
 
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| #1959204 - 10/18/07 02:12 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| sleeper_crx   Sr Member
 
 
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I'm gonna say yeah he hit it look at the line he took then try and picture the rear wheels following if anything the rear wheels hit and knocked the cone over
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| #5256775 - 12/20/10 05:04 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| JSIR   Post Master Sr
 
 
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I don't know about the cone, but are you guys (Karp, Redline, and Redline Jr.) still going hard after all these years ?, lol.   BTW Is Scott (MadtownSi) still around these parts ?
 Sorry, but I've been away from things for a few years, I've been busy raising a family and unfortunately I've been driving family vehicles since leaving CSI.  I finally got back into a car that I can enjoy at the track again.  I thought I'd search around and see who's doing what.   Things must be pretty slow around here, this thread is 3 years old ?  lol.
 
 Best regards to everyone, I hope you're all doing well.
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| #5276064 - 12/30/10 09:57 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| Runnin@Redline   Jr Member
 
 
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Joey,
 well I am still having fun killing cones.. not many track days; Sam still races, though not as much as he used to and Adam races when he is in town!  I still have my original SI!
 
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| #5292518 - 01/07/11 06:50 PM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| JSIR   Post Master Sr
 
 
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Joey,
 well I am still having fun killing cones.. not many track days; Sam still races, though not as much as he used to and Adam races when he is in town!  I still have my original SI!
 That's sweet, great that you still have the original SI, nice to hear from both of you.   Adam I hope all is well with you in Australia, sounds like a nice place to be.  I wish you both all the best, I had some fun times at Gingerman, I just resurected some old event pics the other day.    Best regards guys.
   
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| #6195867 - 03/09/12 09:08 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| chicguy   Newbie
 
 
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Come on Adam, I have had much closer encounters than that!
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| #6209878 - 03/15/12 05:27 AM  Re: Did He Hit The Cone or Not?
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| brucegracy   Newbie
 
 
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Is it so fun in killing the cones!!!
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