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#10660816 - 01/07/25 11:35 AM Concern over tariffs
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I was reading another thread about someone's friends being concerned about their company moving to the USA and it made me wonder, is there a lot of concern locally about this at the moment?

1) I was talking with a Canadian supplier of mine who is concerned. If there's a tariff then his USA competition can get more for their product citing production capacities. They can then use that revenue to build capacity and take all of the business currently being produced in Canada. Tariff's worked as expected. I have discussed adding value to the product in the USA if required to stay competitive, again tariffs work in this scenario.

2) There is a 25% "Article of China" tariff in the USA that's been in place 6 years now that I've paid MANY times. It has survived two administrations now and is just the new normal for Chinese imported products. Of course it's passed to the end users, people who think the vendors are "paying these" are ignorant. It is HS Code 9903.88.01.

What makes it different when applied to Canada vs China is that Canada has similar enough regulations and cost of living to USA (I know they vary region to region as well, but please ignore the blanket statement) which made their pricing already competitive whereas 25% tacked on to cheap still equals cheap. Canadian exporters to the USA don't survive a chance if there are reasonable options who have capacity.

I'm in the USA now and always looking for opportunity so let's see I guess, but I don't want to see Canadians suffering it's hard enough FFS!

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#10661189 - 01/08/25 11:49 AM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I built a commercial building in 2018-2019 and got killed with the Trump tariffs back then because Canada retaliated. Ordered a steel building from Ohio, ended up going 25% over budget directly because of steel tariffs.
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#10661292 - 01/08/25 06:03 PM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: Risky Business]
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All this tariff talk already has Canadian divisions with talks of closing down and moving operations stateside, at least with raw material sourcing (steel/alum) as one of my friends is in the industry. He's a director and unsure where his job currently stands...

2025 is going to get ugly.
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#10661376 - 01/09/25 07:13 AM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: Hatorade]
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At the corporate level, company I work for apparently has ALL investment disbursements held off until likely mid-year-ish ... i.e. wait and see how the tariffs will fuck things up. (Not that there is much investment this fiscal year anyway...)

(WHQ in US, $8B annual revenue, $30B market cap)

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#10662247 - 01/11/25 05:49 PM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: furball]
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I work at Dofasco and we are not going anywhere. I think only about 25% of our steel goes to the USA. Not sure how a big tariff would effect us since most of our steel stays here and goes into Canadian built cars and trucks.
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#10663692 - 01/16/25 07:19 PM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: The Postman]
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Probably both sides bluffing.....

Hope so....
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#10663788 - 01/17/25 06:54 AM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: The Postman]
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 Originally Posted By: The Postman
I work at Dofasco and we are not going anywhere. I think only about 25% of our steel goes to the USA. Not sure how a big tariff would effect us since most of our steel stays here and goes into Canadian built cars and trucks.


except...

Canadian built cars and trucks are subjected to 25% tariffs too. It's a snowball effect to all industries involved.
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#10663958 - 01/17/25 12:24 PM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: c2k]
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Wish our government would take a stronger stand to the buffoon. He feeds off the percieved weakness of others. Any grovelling just feeds his ego and pushes him further.
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#10663983 - 01/17/25 01:22 PM Re: Concern over tariffs [Re: Big Tasty]
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As much as I LOATHE Thug Ford, he seems to be the only one who is willing to go toe to toe with oompa loompa.

Unfortunately he will not be getting my vote should he call an early election and the state of our health care system.
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