Not yet.

Fingers crossed. Once this is done, not a single change will be made to the car till I know for sure whether or not I got in. If I do make it, I want to hit the comp with a tried and tested setup.

Not yet.

Fingers crossed. Once this is done, not a single change will be made to the car till I know for sure whether or not I got in. If I do make it, I want to hit the comp with a tried and tested setup.

Even if he doesn't win... the recognition he can get by being in the mag would be worth it. Most die hard car people understand that some of the judging shit is crap and realize paki's car is pretty bad ass

point is... the USCC is stupid.


The USCC is retarded... a DYNO event? comeon... yeah, let's see which car can make the most peak power, which would be unusable unless trying to launch off of an aircraft carrier sideways.

MPG? I don't know a single car modder who is concerned with MPG... especially building a competent performance car.

oh well... not my event... which is why i started my own.

The nitrous system wont be fake, I just probably wont use it. I dont understand what you have against the comp? Show me a single mag that has as extensive a battery of tests? I thought it was a shitass comp as well when the 350Z won it, but then I realized it was because NONE of the other cars were well sorted to do well across the board. Hello 1000hp viper with no AC, and blinged out single turbo supra on 19 inch wheels.

If I get in, hell yes Im going to do it.

I have not seen the issue yet.

worst in environmental, No cats LOL

worst in acceleration Talk about sand on the track [url]http://videos.streetfire.net/search/ls7+rx7/0/adcb6a55-0ce5-4a01-b498-982d00243fe2.htm[/url]

I took the car to Sacramento race track to see what it would run without sand.
[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/search/ls7+rx7/0/fecf5599-23cb-4806-bccd-983b002d54c5.htm[/url]

Did poorly in show car My car is very clean but I do not have all of the ricer parts on my car. New paint 99 front bumper very clean r1 interior with Raceshop CM cage.

braking My car brakes very good. They told us to brake at the 1st cone and this is where the track was in bad shape. The cars that did better in braking where braking further down the track where the track was in better shape. Talk about not following the rules and getting away with it.

skidpad I think that I was in 3rd on this.

road course My car was smoking bad on the turns so I only ran 2 warm up laps, no all out runs. It turns out that my motor was sucking in engine oil on the turns. I later fixed this with a catch can.

Hp 3rd place, the only car on pump gas and no turbo. I was happy with 3rd.

gross display This is easy with a v8 rx7
[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/search/ls7+rx7/0/3c33e75d-de7e-4370-bc4d-984201588c21.htm[/url]

Midpack in economy 427 motor not too bad

girlfriend test She was hot

I had alot of fun in the event. Not everything was fair, but it never is.

Mark do you want to add anything?

This challenge has many pitfalls:
The whole staff on the SCC Mag crew is new... and they didn't run it as smoothly as last year's event that is for sure. Less sponsors and absolutely no free stuff (ie Mother's products, Motul oils, free event Tshirt, etc).

The drag strip for this test is surrounded by concrete plants with dust/sand blowing across it all day long. It does the drag, 20-100mph test, and braking. Crappy prep and zero VHT on the track. It was a joke. So was last year just not as badly prepped. The braking rules were not enforced either which was total BS and gave an advantage to those that cheated. These results killed his overall points accumulation where he should've finished towards the top.

Like last year: The gas mileage loop they don't tell you that you can bring a large truck and draft behind it going 40mph on the freeway and then coast downhill for miles, plop in a different ECU setup for running super lean... and other tricks. The route was poorly signposted as well as some actually got lost and they didn't disqualify them.

The skidpad surface wasn't as nice as last years also and was in the process of being fixed.. Mike runs the stock sway bars and bushings which may limit the cars handling potential and he never really tested optimal tire pressures. You can ask him about his prep which I'm not 100% clear on. My buildup followed an SCCA National AutoX champion's setup (Andy McKee) and it worked well... just rides very stiff is the tradeoff and is very darty.

Another BS to note is this:
They allow professional drivers to pilot the cars which certainly affects the end results in some tests. They certainly don't print it in the results.... Some people simply can't drive their own cars I guess. ie the Skyline had a professional Japanese Skyline racer at the strip, the NSX guy didn't drive the car at all, and many others had long time road racers pilot their cars at the road course which was their home track! IMO the event should be driven by the owner... even if they didn't build the car. Otherwise it simply turns into a who has the biggest wallet contest once again.

Racing/Contests is about bending the rules to the limit... it is also about enforcing them which the SCC Event staff was very loose about doing.

Carbotech frikken pwn! Great recommendation Chuck.

Where and when is your event? I'll do it.

MPG? I don't know a single car modder who is concerned with MPG... especially building a competent performance car.

GRM's $2006 competition is a perfect example of a well sorted competition.

Here are some comments from last years LS7 RX7 to give you an idea of what really goes on.



Then Mark chimes in. He had the silver LS1 RX7 that was in the USCC a couple years ago. He was there at last years USCC to help out LS1-FD.



Head on over to the torquecentral forums if you want to talk to them. They might be able to help if things go through.

Sounds more like experience to me, but you'd know best. Right?

the event I started is The BALLS Challenge. basically three straight days of racing. Friday is the drag strip, Saturday is the time trials/track day, Sunday is the autocross. you must drive your own car, and it must be legally registered/insured. if your car doesn't make it to all three, DNFed from the event.

Don't take my bashing the USCC as me saying you shouldn't do it. just don't go expecting any kind of hope of winning.

On the flip side, it sounds like you're going to:
1. defend the GM namesake in front of a bunch of SCC readers...who are just as lost as the magazine writers are.

2. validate your car's ability to compete with other cars (which are largely built by shops to showcase their work and not built by the home mechanic).

3. to show off.

If i'm wrong... and you're just trying to compete with high performance cars... there's NASA TT in SoCal that has a wealth of good drivers and fast cars. If I'm right... then have fun.

Troof!

I love my Bobcats...I can only imagine how some of the race pads feel

You got me, I know nothing about cars, driving cars, or competing in motorsports. I don't have the foggiest idea about adapting to the situation to get the best possible scores. I know nothing about taking advantage of the gray area of the rules. I know nothing about learning and practicing the track you will be competing on before hand.

Seriously alot of that sounded like excuses. "Oh dear me I can't afford a professional driver" big fucking deal, there are plenty of amazing drivers willing to drive for free that are just as fast, or you could learn how to drive yourself. You can't blame anyone but yourself for not getting your car dialed in (ie. tire pressures). The same goes for the drag racing and breaking tests.

Then again I'm not one to make excuses, just take your ass kicking like a man and learn from it.

Okay, I will make sure to go into it hoping to lose?

I love my xp9's. they work even when its -31F outside granted not like they do when they are warmed up but I dont have to worry about coasting through the stop sign in the morning .

What times have you actually put down in the 1/4?

Have you competed in the USCC? If not, what do you think gives you the right to call other people whiners when you have zero experience in their situations?

You sound like you don't know anything about this. Neither of those guys even came close to complaining about not having a hired driver. Both of them wanted to drive their own cars. Personally, I think that's how the competition should be, but that's just one mans opinion.

Just take my ass kicking like a man? Do you have any idea what's even going on here?

That's right, you need to have competed directly in this challenge to be able to comment on it. You cannot take competition experience from any other motorsport or on any other day, and apply it in any way. Just like NASA spec miata drivers opinions are in no way valid about the SCCA spec miata class. In that regard what gives you the right to criticize my criticism when you have zero experience in my situation?

It's great they wanted to drive their own car but don't complain when others have other people drive their cars, as is allowed in the rules. They knew that going in they could have a better driver drive the car, but chose not to.

Are you retaining water?

Oz,

I think Driven is right. Even if you have the better car, the winner will still be the car that will sell the most magazines.

Look at the demographic for SCC and ask yourself how appealing is a SC Z06 to that crowd...

Last I checked there was more to this competition, no matter how lopsided it is, than racing Lamborghinis on the highway. I think a C6 Z06 would have more than an outside chance at winning if the driver was semi-competent.

More power to you, though.

Show me where they complain about other people hiring drivers. I must have missed it...

Another BS to note is this:
They allow professional drivers to pilot the cars which certainly affects the end results in some tests. They certainly don't print it in the results.... Some people simply can't drive their own cars I guess. ie the Skyline had a professional Japanese Skyline racer at the strip, the NSX guy didn't drive the car at all, and many others had long time road racers pilot their cars at the road course which was their home track! IMO the event should be driven by the owner... even if they didn't build the car. Otherwise it simply turns into a who has the biggest wallet contest once again.

Right.. that's what I was thinking. The competition seems to be about having an all-around car that is streetable, trackable, and looks hot. Didnt a Ferrari 360 win one year?