Brampton

Brampton, but on the border of Woodbridge

thats like the worst part of Brampton, well maybe not the worst but jeez. Thats just mcmansion row

Old Brampton is way better.

old brampton:

Scarborough .

Port union south of 401 pls

street too straight. do not want.

my real estate agent lives exactly there. nice little area.

Scarborough by a landslide for me. Barrie and Oshawa are way too far out. Brampton is nice in some areas but the location of Scarborough is much better.

Woodbine/Lumsden or is that Toronto?

That's the armpit of east York (well one of them).

A school principal was stabbed in the back after breaking up a fight at an east-end Toronto junior high school yesterday and a 14-year-old student was charged with aggravated assault.

Heather DeGraaf was listed in stable condition last night at Sunnybrook hospital with a 10-centimetre stab wound to her back, police said. Ms. DeGraaf broke up a fight between two female students at D.A. Morrison Junior High School, on Gledhill Ave., then got into an argument with one of them.

Investigators said she was then stabbed from behind with what they believe was a letter opener.

Police said that Ms. DeGraaf's wound did not appear to be life-threatening.

"Ms. DeGraaf is going to be all right," said Peter Paulseth, a vice-principal at the school.

Students were in tears as they watched their principal being taken away on a stretcher.

Yesterday's stabbing was the second at the school in six months. Last November, a 14-year-old boy was arrested after a 12-year-old girl was attacked inside the girl's washroom.

Scarborough = 1
Brampton = 1
Oshawa = 0
Barrie = 1 (default for LNXGUY so I don't have to do it later)
Maple CN rail townhouse = Denis Si

Манитоба

This Chink will pick Barrie by process of elimination for the following reasons:
- at least its closer to the bigger ski slopes and can pop on over on a weekday evening for a few runs (and stay the F away on weekends so the other folks can have at it).

Quite possible. I was selling parts for a while there, and my cousins shop was put that way years ago.

Brief thread derail, but did I meet you once at Brock Rd. and Bayly and I bought a Momo Monte Carlo 350 mm steering wheel from you? I can't remember who that was, but it was someone from here.

(yes, that was random)

How is everyone hating on Barrie so much!? You really need to come up here. Prices for housing are way cheaper (for now), we have the water, you're an hour to anything to you need in Toronto, an hour to anything you need in the North...

Even if I had the choice to leave, I'd probably still end up back here.

Scarborough .

Port union south of 401 pls

Fuck Scarlem and Brampton - traffic is horrible in and out of those shit holes.

There ain't much in Oshawa for me.

As far as Scarbs, the port union area is alright, so are the bluffs.

Personally I would opt for the Kingston Road area, Fallingbrook in particular.

Being Asian, I have no reason to go north of Barrie.

Yesterday was my first official day in Brampton. In Milton I would walk the dog and leave the door unlocked. Went to walk the dog last night and instinctively did the same, but after 5 steps decided to go back and lock the door lol.

wow everyone here is a millionaire, wow real estate investor proficiency omg.

wow everyone here is a millionaire, wow real estate investor proficiency omg.

Damn screamin, your boy is getting so big!

WTF...k market has official gone full retard...thanks asian L E L

http://www.remax.ca/on/richmond-hill-real-estate/na-1-holly-dr-1234567-prty/

this place not very far away just sold this week for $1,075,000 - 15yr old townhome

hypers2k dude you must be laughing if you sell

I'm 2 seconds away from listing, packing up wife/kids and moving to Montreal...beauty home, awesome city and have a nice chunk of change in the bank

I got way more than double in < 10 years.

Yeah but then where are you going to go?

$1,888,888 is cheap no? I saw houses listed at major mac and markham Rd listed just under $2m.

That's the armpit of east York (well one of them).

I went to D.A. Morrison junior high there where someone stabbed the VP lol 13 year old thugs doe. We used to be on lockdown almost monthly because people would bring weapons and/or steal cars and crash them into the school. This school was only grades 7,8,9

Just paper millionaires

Yeah but then where are you going to go?

$1,888,888 is cheap no? I saw houses listed at major mac and markham Rd listed just under $2m.

pretty much

$1.3 isn't gonna get you much (in a desirable area)...maybe a fixer upper.

Just buy already. You'd have been up so much if you had bought 5 years ago when you sold the condo....


/get-your-stalking-on

regular as in what? A condo downtown is 500, and regular people are buying those. If you are upgrading to a 1.3 mill house from that, it seems plausible. Risky bought his place for over 500k IIRC, and he could easily sell it now for 1.2, and move to a 1.8888mil place. Obivously he won't because he's in a white enclave.

My point is the housing market has different price points for different people. everybody gets a turn

l el

Your entire argument revolves around the assumption that 5 years ago, 3 years ago, 1 year ago we all knew as FACT that the market would only keep growing at double digits.

If we all knew this I am sure we would've purchased homes in a completely different manner. I'd buy as much home in the most desirable area and just swim in debt knowing I'd cash out big time...NO ONE KNEW the market is going to continue to be so stupid hence why some waited (sucks, but they had legitimate reason to), others bought and got lucky, etc, etc. I mean I can sit here and dwell when my buddy and I were this >.< close to buying a place in forest hill from our buddy's grandparents at the time (2014) for 1.3M. We got cold fee because we were both stretching ourselves thin so after inspection/financing all done we backed out. They sold the house on the market then, now it just resold for $2.3M.

Could've made $1m in 2 years....BUT I DIDN'T HAVE YOUR CRYSTAL BALL!!!

Since maybe 2014 we passed the equilibrium when it even makes sense to buy (unless of course we assume we continue at this trajectory). Doesn't make sense, let alone now in 2017 if you don't have another inflated property you are selling to move to something else you are fucked.

Biggest difference is you upgraded homes on value, so you and others like you win.

Most upgrade on stupid shit like size - losing proposition.

IMO, house prices is somewhat meaningless at this point.. what I really want to know is what % of the price is being put on a mortgage. To me, thats a better indication of market health.

It's a home not an investment, unless one keeps buying and flipping I suppose.

^ well they are fucked then lol

No included radioactivity, gonna pass.

^ well they are fucked then lol

Chance favours the prepared mind....
You didn't need a crystal ball. You buy the house you could afford, knowing you were in it for the long haul. If it appreciated, then great. Otherwise, it just becomes woulda, shoulda, coulda, but didn't..

I won't deny that timing and luck has been a factor...but in the 2 homes i've lived in to date, flipping/moving/upgrading has WON ME HUGE. Horseshoe up the ass indeed! And as for careers, certainly, everyone has their own comfort level and ceiling, but please don't tell me that a serious career person worth their weight has been making the same money today as 10 years ago.

Losing jobs is always a factor. But then there's savings too to support these sorts of things, as well as insurance etc. No, none of those are perfect solutions for an imperfect situation, but it'll hold for an X duration of time. Or one can be too scared, do nothing and live in a condo, or rent and not buy...and sit there and complain about the market and not get in on it until..........it's time to go to a retirement home XD XD XD

Biggest difference is you upgraded homes on value, so you and others like you win.

Most upgrade on stupid shit like size - losing proposition.

You must be old because 10 years ago I wasn't too far out of HS. Even if a person was out of college most have school dept to pay off. To assume that a person would be able to get into the market right away even with all this knowledge they would be at the very start of their career if everything lines up perfectly.

Typical CSI response lol

I think they are skirting around defining "foreign" buyer, hence why no definition. If Chiense come and make sizeable donation for landed immigrant status, but don't live here, they are not foreigners technically speaking, so they are excluded from the stat, but they are the root of the "foreign" problem. At least that's my speculation.

FWIW i was born in '84
Bought first home about 5 years after graduation. Back then, this was all reasonable. Certainly, someone fresh out of school now is SUPER SCREWED.

But assuming we are all in and around the 30s, I don't see how this is a typical CSI response. My personal network (specifically folks in a similar age) also fit the same bill.

Now I know you're full of shit. Most born in 84 are nowhere near close to paying off their mortgage. Most haven't even made a dent in their school debt. Buying a home is one thing saying that the majority are even remotely close to having it paid off especially those that have had zero help from parents in either school debt or house makes me think you're living in a dream world. Certainly not most of GTA, nevermind Toronto.

Why don't people think that Toronto, the 3rd or 4th largest city in North America and a hub for so many things, is one of those cities? Why would it not follow the path of London, New York, L.A., Melbourne/Syndey etc)?

From one perspective I don't believe that salaries have increased in Toronto as they have for other major cities, but in my opinion (and I don't know anything) I just don't see a major correction, maybe at most 10%. People will move outward and new people will move in (or their money will move in).

I'm curious as to what people define as a "correction". A drop in housing prices of what, 50%?

There are many cities around the world, that were not at one time but have now become cities where only the "wealthy" (I use that term loosely) can afford to live. This comes from not only the price of homes, but also the cost of living there.

Why don't people think that Toronto, the 3rd or 4th largest city in North America and a hub for so many things, is one of those cities? Why would it not follow the path of London, New York, L.A., Melbourne/Syndey etc)?

From one perspective I don't believe that salaries have increased in Toronto as they have for other major cities, but in my opinion (and I don't know anything) I just don't see a major correction, maybe at most 10%. People will move outward and new people will move in (or their money will move in).

On a side note, my wife's aunt just sold her 3 bedroom place in Markham for $1.4M or $1.5M to someone from China who bought it for their daughter to live in while she goes to school

He never will. He's been talking about it for years now...

Can you blame him? I wouldn't be comfortable at all buying regardless of my income/downpayment/etc. It's a big gamble and burden to carry right now.

Just checked Oakville, there are a lot of decent detached homes for less than a mil maybe I am not looking in the right areas but the market seems "reasonable" unless bidding wars.

That to solds thing hasn't been working for ages now.

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/17742807/427-PINEGROVE-Road-OAKVILLE-Ontario-L6K2B6


This one is perfect imo, buy it, live in it, feel out the market for a couple of years while stacking and then tear down and build.

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Singl...V6-Old-Oakville

Use the Chinese site man!

There is always something. But I think Jeffos is looking for a home that is like in the show million dollar listing lol

Takes a few days for the sold listings to come up. But at least you can see about 3 months back.

They are not foreigners tho, A NEW STUDY SAID SO

This can't be stated loud enough

I guess I'm missing the point but I don't see how you say this. Outside of the mcmasions, people upgrade based on need. What you need as a single person vs married vs kids will relate to size of house. Long gone are the days where people can buy their first house as their forever house.

True but what they could afford was a real house with costs proportionate to wages with land that could be expanded on if needed. Now you get a box in the sky or house sharing walls on both sides with a 10'x10' spit of land in the back.

For sure the house I grew up in was a forever home for them. 3 bedroom, 1.5bath big front and back yards, close to schools. I couldn't raise a family in the first house I bought, we'd all drive ourselves fucking crazy in that kind of space, lol.

True but what they could afford was a real house with costs proportionate to wages with land that could be expanded on if needed. Now you get a box in the sky or house sharing walls on both sides with a 10'x10' spit of land in the back.

and now our behaviour/expectations/"wants & needs" are completely out of touch with reality, but society reinforces that it's "ok" to want and need more and more. WE DESERVE IT! WE WORKED FOR IT! lol

Some things back then were easier, others were harder, no point in comparing. Only thing we can look at is the now, and now our behaviour/expectations/"wants & needs" are completely out of touch with reality, but society reinforces that it's "ok" to want and need more and more. WE DESERVE IT! WE WORKED FOR IT! lol

The couple paid $10,000 and assumed a small mortgage to buy the semi-detached Victorian in 1965.

Steven Atsaves of Royal LePage Grange Hall Realty listed the house with an asking price of $699,000 and a description of the property as a “renovator’s dream find.”

The asking price is low compared with the sale price of other Victorian semis on the street, he says, in recognition of the updates the house is likely to need. He figures the buyers will spend $200,000 or more to renovate.

The kitchen and bathroom are rundown and the fixtures are vintage. Radiators provide the heat. He didn’t bother with fresh paint and staging, he says, because new owners will likely gut the interior.

“It needs everything,” he says.

The first day the property arrived on the market, potential buyers were streaming through. Cowan Avenue has many stately houses that were divided into rooms and apartments in previous decades, but many of the houses have been renovated in recent years as the area has experienced a resurgence.

Jeff ain't about East York though

Her "forever home" ended up being a semi...how many people would "settle" for that now? Shouldn't she have moved 56 times by now to get to her "dream home" or "forever home".

meanwhile these days, dumb fucks are like:

A FUCKING SEMI? UNACCEPTABLE, I DEMAND DETACHED, 3K SQUARE FEET, YARD, PRIVACY, UNICORNS RUNNING THROUGH THE NIGHT, AND NO NUKE PILLS!!! WE DESERVE IT!!

I have no issues with moving, but people chasing "forever" and "dream" homes are out to fucking lunch. That shit doesn't exist, anything can be your dream home, just have to accept that society is fucking retarded.

Well then time to rent

Seriously, I have no idea why anyone needs that...but people pay for it

Doing it right ---^ I want a bungalow with a nice walkout basement for my next house.

I want a townhouse with a 17-car garage.

Same with this 4age guy. Who the hell are you hanging around ? Other privileged fobs ? So far from reality.

Our parents bought what they could afford and made it work. I think we all could take a few lessons from that generation.

Agreed to a certain degree.

Back in my parents' days (say 1990s), a two garages detached house can be bought for $200,000 and the average income was probably in the $30,000-35,000 a year? So that said house was 6 times the salary.

In 2017, a two garage detached house is around $1 million, and let's say the average income is $100,000 (don't think it's that high). It is still 10 times the salary.

So the buying power is significantly lower and there were probably very little bidding war back in the 90s.

If houses in Toronto were affordable for middle-class families, they’d cost an average $228,657.

The late 1990s were the last time prices were that low in the city. The actual average in September was $627,395, which is a gross undersell because it includes homes in the suburbs around the city. In Toronto proper – the 416 area code, in other words – the average cost of a detached house was around $1-million.

With an average price of $627,395 in the Greater Toronto Area, a household would need income of at least $209,000 or so to be in sync with the guideline of having a price-to-income ratio around three. A recent estimate shows us that the median household income in the city is $76,219.

Pretty close on the figures.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-esta...rticle27126408/

^ fob w/ fob buddies

Does Jeffo work downtown?

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Singl...eenwood-Coxwell

Can be yours for only 799,999