(Post Master Sr)

08/11/15 06:50 AM

Career change, or take the money and run?

No time to write my life story, so here's where we're at:

1) 6mth contract @ Crown Corporation, as an IT Lead. Mad money Choco-style.
- Must incorporate, potential OT pay
- Director is go-getter, though may or may not help out a contractor
- Asked me during interview if I was interested in project management. I said HELLS YEAH but I think recruiter is hunting for someone $\:\($ (I'm hoping director will see that I'm awesome and offer me a new role after 6 mths.)
- She's a smart cookie, also an adjunct prof at a local uni. Has an agency background so we can 'connect' with the lingo 'n shit...
- New industry (good thing), as I've been in (ad) agency for too long, and employers who know agency 'discount' any experience you have. ("Oh, you were a contractor there, and you sub'd in for PM and IT Manager? But of course you did....")

2) 6mth contract @ ad firm, project manager
- Cannot incorporate, no benefits (that's ok?), paid vacation, extra long weekends
- Superb boss, loves me, loves everyone
- Not MAD money, but decent enough considering I'm jumping into a new job profile, which is what I want/need/yearn for
- While still an (ad) agency, they're one of the larger ones, so it's less bullshit. More client-facing stuff. All the ladies dress well here

Potential for renewal after the 6 mths? Both are probably yes. (Probably easier to get full time @ agency since I'm direct, versus @ Crown I'm thru their preferred recruiting agency.) Location-wise, both are downtown; I'd still have to pay for GO + TTC.

Regardless of where I end up, if PM is where I want to be sooner rather than later, I'd have to be at that place for 1.5-2 years for it to have any weight in my experience portfolio...

Decision was to have been made .... 4 days ago... Both offers still valid.

Priorities:
- Everyone has a minimum price, everyone has a mortgage/Porsche/second wife to pay for. I prefer full time, but you get what you get.
- I need to get out of the specific IT shit I'm doing; dying department...
- I need to get out of agency sooner rather than later. You get sexy titles like Director, etc but it gets heavily discounted at times. Other times the pace is just insane.

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 06:54 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Money isn't everything, weigh where you want to be in six months, and the time you need to put in to get there. Contracting is great if all you value is money and don't have family time to consider (or don't care).

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 07:33 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

Money isn't everything

ok

Both options kinda suck simply because you don't know where you will be after 6 months. I'd go with number one because a) money b) diversification c) learning from someone who seems to know their sh!t (very important to me - otherwise hard to grow)

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 07:37 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

You said to me you'd rather have 9-5 @ 150k than 60 hour weeks @ 200k

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 07:42 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

1

(Post Master Sr)

08/11/15 07:48 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

I'll be babied more with 2) (which is a good thing), and 1) is more of watching ...

i.e. they're hiring me as a contractor, for a technical position, not PM. They expect that I know my shit, and get the job done. If they like me and/or I do an over-the-top job, that's all bonus points, and potentially help me out for future opps they may have.

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

c) learning from someone who seems to know their sh!t (very important to me - otherwise hard to grow)

(Post Master Sr)

08/11/15 07:50 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

And keep in mind, while 'Project Manager' ain't exactly the sexiest thing out there, and not as coveted as CTO or CEO or CFO, to me it's kinda like the fat kid finally fitting into a size 32" pair of pants... Bliss, pure bliss.

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 08:39 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Have you considered fucking bitches as an alternative way to getting money?

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 08:54 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: eddie _69

Have you considered fucking bitches as an alternative way to getting money?

How is that working out for you?

Screamin Type ARGH!

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 09:05 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: eddie _69

Have you considered fucking bitches as an alternative way to getting money?

Worked well for me until I got locked down

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 09:24 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: eddie _69

Have you considered fucking bitches as an alternative way to getting money?

How is that working out for you?

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 09:47 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: eddie _69

Have you considered fucking bitches as an alternative way to getting money?

How is that working out for you?

Ask your mom

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 10:46 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

crown corp

(Post Master Sr)

08/11/15 10:48 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Pick the one that allows you to better help meet your career goals in the future. Don't worry too much about he money since it's only 6 months.

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 11:28 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2

Pick the one that allows you to better help meet your career goals in the future. Don't worry too much about he money since it's only 6 months.

**DONOTDELETE**

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08/11/15 11:37 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: JEFFOS

Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2

Pick the one that allows you to better help meet your career goals in the future. Don't worry too much about he money since it's only 6 months.

(Post Master Supreme)

08/11/15 03:03 PM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: SW20_MR2

Pick the one that allows you to better help meet your career goals in the future. Don't worry too much about he money since it's only 6 months.

(Post Master)

08/12/15 05:49 PM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

You said to me you'd rather have 9-5 @ 150k than 60 hour weeks @ 200k

Well duh! The 150k is a higher per hour wage. Simple math dude!

(Post Master Sr)

08/13/15 09:11 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

I crown'd it up ... Got inc'd up ... Let's hope I didn't fuck up any of the paperwork $\:\|$

(Post Master Sr)

09/04/15 08:59 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

This has come up again ... agency has sweetened the deal.

1) 6mth contract @ Crown Corporation, as an IT Team Lead. (Relative) mad money Choco-style.
2) 12mth 'full-time' contract @ ad firm, 15 days paid vacation, plus company holidays (i.e. long wkend == 4-day wkends), plus medical benefits (I pay like $20/mth to join) as project manager

My list of priorities I consider:
1) Cheddar, both short and mid-term
2) Industry. I need to get out of agency life. (People 'discount' agency experience outside of agency)
3) My IT vertical... Getting into PM allows me to branch out. There's only 1 IT Manager in a firm; there are multiple PMs in a firm...
4) A good manager/leader
5) I'm learning new shit

(Post Master Supreme)

09/05/15 09:40 AM

Re: Career change, or take the money and run?

furball as an IT Team lead takes charge....