| zc911 |
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| 12/17/14 09:25 AM |
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What are you guys running?
Had a package stolen from the front door
Amazon is awesome though, full refund.Figured a 2 or 4 camera system would be good
I want to be able to view the feed remotley, i would perfer a notification when there is motion, other than that i dunno anything else?
Any suggestions?
| Senor Eduardo_82 |
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| 12/17/14 09:34 AM |
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Get shit delivered to work.
| furball |
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| 12/17/14 09:41 AM |
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Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.
| furball |
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| 12/17/14 09:43 AM |
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I've been eyeballing some 'higher-tech' ones, i.e. DIY, wireless, cordless sensors, etc...
Nothing that really has the ease/dummy-like numeric keypad panels + keyfobs though...i.e. I don't want a huge ass keyfob to disarm all the time. A tiny one is awesome PLUS keypad.
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/17/14 09:59 AM |
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Originally Posted By: eddie _82
Get shit delivered to work.
| zc911 |
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| 12/17/14 10:02 AM |
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Originally Posted By: eddie _82
Get shit delivered to work.
wife ordered it, i always do
Originally Posted By: furball
Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.
excellent i was reading up, their systems seem pretty good
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/17/14 10:08 AM |
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If someone wants to walk away with your package they will.
| Huy009 |
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| 12/17/14 10:13 AM |
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Originally Posted By: furball
Costco has some Lorex systems on sale, with recording to DVR.
Is what I am currently using right now at home.
Excellent technical support, and APP integration exceptionally with iOS which I am able to replay video feeds via my iPhone or iPad.
2TB 8 Camera setup around the house and in the garage.
| zc911 |
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| 12/17/14 10:18 AM |
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look slike it's sold out online how much was it?
| Huy009 |
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| 12/17/14 10:36 AM |
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Originally Posted By: zc911
look slike it's sold out online how much was it?
I cant remember exactly how much I sent on the setup
I think it was around the 1300ish or so
2TB DVR with 24" Touch Screen monitor (IMO useless since you can view everything remotely
8 wired cameras on top of that additional wiring going to the back yard
But it looks like prices went down
http://www.lorextechnology.com/complete-...on/prod610002.p
| zc911 |
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| 12/17/14 10:51 AM |
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i think i like the digital Ip stuff better, i can use ethernet cable to the cameras.
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 11:03 AM |
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You get what you pay for.
The Lorex and q see stuff is low end. It wows you with its large hdd and included cameras but things fail on these units and sometimes tech support can be iffy. We have installed a couple q see units for customers only to have to replace cameras a few months after. ip cameras have come down in price a lot so your other option is a few ip cameras and use a PC with blue iris to record. Other than that I suggest you buy a knock off Hikvision Dvr and a couple of cameras. You can get 650tvl analog cameras around $30-50
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 11:04 AM |
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Originally Posted By: zc911
i think i like the digital Ip stuff better, i can use ethernet cable to the cameras.
You can also use cat5 for analog with a Balun. Rg59 and power is hardly used anymore because of copper prices.
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 11:10 AM |
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Another option is just buy an ip camera and put a micro as card and record on motion. You could also have the images emailed or uploaded to an ftp and no Need for another machine recording
| furball |
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| 12/17/14 11:28 AM |
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http://www.cnet.com/news/diy-home-security-roundup/
| Hatorade |
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| 12/17/14 11:41 AM |
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So what will having a camera setup do for you? If it is to deter thieves, why not just put up a dummy camera?
| RIC3BOY |
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| 12/17/14 11:46 AM |
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Was eyeing a Lorex LHD818 system at Costco the other evening. 8 channel 1TB DVR with 8 720P cameras for $499. Did some preliminary research, not bad for the price, but I'm somewhat deterred by the long term reliability of it. I was planning on doing my own DIY system, but these packages and their pricing is starting to get more attractive. This system runs coax though.
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 12:45 PM |
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Like I said you don't need to run coax you can still run cat5 and buy baluns for it. If you decide to switch down the road to ip you still have the correct wiring for it.
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 12:47 PM |
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Originally Posted By: Hatorade
So what will having a camera setup do for you? If it is to deter thieves, why not just put up a dummy camera?
Not just thieves but anything where you need proof down the road. Who says it wasn't one of the neighbors thieving stuff? Plus dummy cameras are so fake looking anyone who sees them can almost tell they are fake. If you spend more on a good looking fake you may as well just buy the real thing.
| zc911 |
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| 12/17/14 12:54 PM |
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sorry the other good thing is POE, no extra power cord. With the adaptor you still need power to the camera
Oh crap you dont, nice!
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm
| RIC3BOY |
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| 12/17/14 01:25 PM |
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Originally Posted By: loudsubz
Like I said you don't need to run coax you can still run cat5 and buy baluns for it. If you decide to switch down the road to ip you still have the correct wiring for it.
Just looked up what the baluns are. Well shit on me, looks like I'm running cat5. Which is perfect, because they're throwing away two boxes of 1000ft at work
| furball |
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| 12/17/14 02:30 PM |
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IP cameras run on a 5v USB power cable....
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 03:29 PM |
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Originally Posted By: furball
IP cameras run on a 5v USB power cable....
umm what?
poe is 48vdc over cat5
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 03:31 PM |
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Originally Posted By: zc911
sorry the other good thing is POE, no extra power cord. With the adaptor you still need power to the camera
Oh crap you dont, nice!
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm
Oh crap you dont, nice!
http://www.cctvcamerapros.com/Cat-5-Video-Balun-p/balun-pv5.htm
You don't even need those ones.
A balun runs on 1 pair, so you have 3 pair on the cat5 to do what you want.
You can buy the $5 a pair baluns and wire the other spares for power.
| Denshu |
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| 12/17/14 03:43 PM |
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Good thread, I am also looking into a cheap recording camera for the front area and back....
Someone stole my weed puller and my recycle bin!!!and an attempt on my old bbq grill....I want to see which neighbour
| Hatorade |
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| 12/17/14 04:17 PM |
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Originally Posted By: Denshu
Good thread, I am also looking into a cheap recording camera for the front area and back....
Someone stole my weed puller and my recycle bin!!!and an attempt on my old bbq grill....I want to see which neighbour
Someone stole my weed puller and my recycle bin!!!and an attempt on my old bbq grill....I want to see which neighbour
Sounds like a solid neighbourhood lol
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/17/14 05:09 PM |
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between me and loudsubz we could prob get you a reputable brand system.
if you want one of us to run the cables holler.
only question is what do you want to see? focal length on kits are like 3.6mm, if you want a better field of view go with 2.8mm.
also most dvrs/nvrs have an app you can run on your phone to monitor your house anywhere you are.
you can trigger emails to go out etc...
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/17/14 08:23 PM |
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Loudsubz does not run cable. Pffft
| loudsubz |
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| 12/17/14 08:25 PM |
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The most work I do is lift the coffee cup to my mouth
| Hatorade |
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| 12/17/14 10:07 PM |
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That's not the only thing you put in your mouth!
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/17/14 10:36 PM |
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| loudsubz |
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| 12/18/14 07:17 AM |
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Got to make a living
| furball |
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| 12/18/14 07:52 AM |
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How exactly do you 'run' cables, be it cat5, baluns, USB cable, etc? Cut into the drywall 'n shit?
I've got a couple of wireless IP cameras (1 USB cable for power), and while they're HD and all... They only record to an SD card for now. They're highly portable obviously ...
I want to supplement my setup with a 'smart' security system, one of those DIY ones, but it doesn't have some of the 'old-school' parts to them, such as:
- beeping when a door opens (i.e. door sensor)
- keypad
The ones I've seen have a door sensor, but only for alarm. (i.e. they're run on a tiny 3v battery, so to beep every time the door opens would chew thru the battery They also don't have a keypad, foregoing that for 'smarter' methods such as phone and/or keyfob integration. (I want keypad + phone + keyfob)
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/18/14 07:55 AM |
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grab one end of the cable, run as fast as you can in any particular direction, stop.
there, you just 'ran' a cable.
| furball |
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| 12/18/14 07:55 AM |
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I'd prefer not to have a fucking blue wire (cat5?) going up my wall....
Originally Posted By: Simon_the_Pieman
grab one end of the cable, run as fast as you can in any particular direction, stop.
there, you just 'ran' a cable.
there, you just 'ran' a cable.
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/18/14 08:00 AM |
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im fucking with you.
get some drywall knives, fish sticks, some cable, and start exploring your house and see what routes are best to get to your devices.
| Risky Business |
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| 12/18/14 08:33 AM |
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You are making it sound WAY easier than it actually is, it's a huge PITA to run wires especially for a noob.
Best case scenario of furball's wire runs:
worst case:
| LNXGUY |
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| 12/18/14 08:37 AM |
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Nailed it!
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/18/14 08:38 AM |
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lal, if you take your time and actually think about the routes then it is easy.
its your house after all, so you dont have to put a deadline on yourself. take your time and do it right.
not unless your neighbour is putting one up and you need to have it first with obviously better components
| loudsubz |
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| 12/18/14 08:47 AM |
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anything is possible, but if you don't know framing methods and have experience at looking how a house is setup pre drywall stage it can be a daunting task sometimes.
Last week I was able to run a wire for a keypad. The whole alarm system was wireless, except the keypad needed a plug in power supply or the batteries would only last a week. Basement was fully finished so I only had a 12X12 access panel in the basement to work with. Some creativity, 4-8 foot long fiberglass rods and 4 hours later I was able to get a wire from the electrical panel without making a single hole in drywall. I also went through the sink cabinet in the washroom behind
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/18/14 08:56 AM |
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Originally Posted By: Risky Business
You are making it sound WAY easier than it actually is, it's a huge PITA to run wires especially for a noob.
Best case scenario of furball's wire runs:
worst case:
Best case scenario of furball's wire runs:
worst case:
It definitely can be a daunting task if you have never done it before.
| loudsubz |
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| 12/18/14 08:26 PM |
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Too late, OP already sold the house. On to the next thing
| zc911 |
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| 12/19/14 08:55 AM |
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Lol. I actually found the box, my mom stopped by that day and put the box in a spare room
Gonna see if there are any deals on boxing day
| Wildout |
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| 12/20/14 06:57 PM |
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As per costco thread on rfd
Lorex 12cam/16channel Secruity System
WAS: $799.99
WILL BE: $499.97
| loudsubz |
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| 12/20/14 08:24 PM |
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typical rfd mentaility
what are you going to do with 12 cameras around your house. The only plus side is you can install 4 and replace 4 each year so you will last at least 3 years
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/21/14 08:31 AM |
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I think Lorex is 1 yr warranty.
Where as you can get better systems with 2 or even 3 years.
You get what you pay for right?
| zc911 |
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| 12/21/14 01:05 PM |
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Ya 12 is nuts. I just need 3-4
| loudsubz |
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| 12/21/14 03:08 PM |
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| zc911 |
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| 12/21/14 07:11 PM |
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Where's that ?
| loudsubz |
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| 12/21/14 09:34 PM |
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ADI Burtek
| Simon_the_Pieman |
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| 12/22/14 09:20 AM |
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ive installed a 4 IPcam FLIR at a house, cameras are 3.6mm but if placed right can cover what you need.
you'll need back boxes to keep your cables in, unless you want to hide them in the wall/brick.
rob, you cant walk in there and just buy it.
need an account setup. you can just buy it through loudsubz or myself and pay us back.
| Hatorade |
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| 12/22/14 05:07 PM |
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Blehhh, when I saw FLIR I thought it was going to be heat sensitive...lame
| loudsubz |
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| 12/22/14 05:40 PM |
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spoke too soon
http://www.flir.com/cvs/americas/en/security/view/?id=57182
| xza8 |
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| 12/22/14 11:15 PM |
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I have a bunch of PoE IP cameras and am wondering what's a good 16 channel NVR that can record to the cloud? The cameras support ONVIF.
| c2k |
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| 12/23/14 06:23 AM |
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while we are on the topic.
my neighbour across from me in my backyard just installed a camera and it looks like its pointing at their deck/sliding door but it looks like it's pointing at my house as well.
so, any ideas how i can 'block' the camera viewing direction of my house?
| loudsubz |
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| 12/23/14 10:09 AM |
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No way to block unless you install some super tall divider or something. If you want to get crafty go over in the night with a portable viewfinder and remove the camera connection and plug it in your viewfinder and see what it's really looking at lol
| loudsubz |
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| 12/23/14 10:16 AM |
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Originally Posted By: xza8
I have a bunch of PoE IP cameras and am wondering what's a good 16 channel NVR that can record to the cloud? The cameras support ONVIF.
You don't want t to record to the Cloud as your main means of recording. You want to send a backup every day or do a secondary stream of 1fps as a backup. Many nvr have the option to backup. You would have to look into some cloud recording storage servers that offer remote cloud storage. I know of one that's $10 a month for 2 week storage retention
| Euphoricuck |
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| 12/23/14 10:33 AM |
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Originally Posted By: c2k
while we are on the topic.
my neighbour across from me in my backyard just installed a camera and it looks like its pointing at their deck/sliding door but it looks like it's pointing at my house as well.
so, any ideas how i can 'block' the camera viewing direction of my house?
my neighbour across from me in my backyard just installed a camera and it looks like its pointing at their deck/sliding door but it looks like it's pointing at my house as well.
so, any ideas how i can 'block' the camera viewing direction of my house?
jack off on your back deck
| xza8 |
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| 12/23/14 05:02 PM |
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Originally Posted By: loudsubz
Originally Posted By: xza8
I have a bunch of PoE IP cameras and am wondering what's a good 16 channel NVR that can record to the cloud? The cameras support ONVIF.
You don't want t to record to the Cloud as your main means of recording. You want to send a backup every day or do a secondary stream of 1fps as a backup. Many nvr have the option to backup. You would have to look into some cloud recording storage servers that offer remote cloud storage. I know of one that's $10 a month for 2 week storage retention
What's the service?
What NVR for ~ 13 POE HIKVISION cameras? Synology? Some of the NVR has 4 ports? So do I get a 16 port POE switch and connect it to one of the 4 ports in the NVR?
| loudsubz |
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| 12/23/14 05:56 PM |
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this is one
http://www.totalsecure.ca/Offsiteportal.aspx
As long as the IP camera has more than 1 stream it should be supported as one of the streams is set to a low FPS and set to upload to the remote site.
http://www2.ltsecurityinc.com/en_us/product/1114.html
correct
just connect one of the ports on the switch to the nvr and connect all the cameras onto the poe ports. Make sure you have 1 uplink port to connect to your router for internet access too
another alternative is the blue iris software on a dedicated windows pc