The reintroduced sex ed curriculum will teach children about homosexuality and same-sex marriages in Grade 3, encourage discussions about puberty, including masturbation, in Grade 6, and talk about preventing sexually transmitted diseases in Grade 7, which could include information about oral and anal sex

This is what your premier and her education minister (both gay) want to teach your kids
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/30/...ous-objections/





Seriously? You want to teach my 8 year old about homosexuality and same sex marriage? You want to teach a prepubescent 11 year old about masturbation, and a 12 year old about anal sex?

but dont be naive about what kids are up to mane. <-- though I think this is aimed at that. Most parents are naive/have blinders on/fingers in their ears and arent equipped to talk to their kids about this... So maybe torturing the teachers into doing it may be a better idea.

homosexuality and same-sex marriages, encourage discussions about puberty, including masturbation

the thing is that the information/discussion should come from the parents.

Its only the people with kids who will understand, Risky and Euphoric are both trolling.

Thats fine if some parents want to raise their kids to have it be acceptable to give out BJ's in grade 7, thats their perogative. It should not be up to the school to disseminate this information at all.

Devil's advocate but having same sex parents is more and more common now, hell my twins in their daycare class tell me about some boy and his "two mommies" picking him up from daycare. They see it already, now how you approach the subject in class will be the big factor.

she thinks about eating ice cream and playing handball and riding her bike. not homosexuals. fuck this.

Thats my point, but according to VAS, in 4 more years, she maybe giving blow jobs to guys

Same here, we have already explained to our kids that some kids have two mommies or dads etc, but don't have the school pass that shit off as normal. I'll tell my kids when I think its appropriate

you want to blame something for sexualizing society at an earlier age? nevermind schools, just look at any pop music video today.

better to "get in front of the message" and teach early and appropriately, i think.


im wondering what the grade 3 homo agenda will actually be like. i have a feeling it will do less with the actual mechanics, and more focused on moral reassurance, tolerance, etc.

i dunno... is 8 years old appropriate to talk about personal relationships in that context? i'm not convinced that it is... but clearly a 17-year-old curriculum needs an overhaul.


i would prefer a curriculum that teaches respect for yourself and for your body. because who wants to be the dad whose daughter is on the giving end of those bjs behind school portables at 11 or 12 years old.


and that doesnt mean you have to go all full-retard and get into all the details, but its a topic that should be approached earlier in life, because it's exposed so much earlier in life these days

ITT: Helicopter Parents

I'm pretty easy going if people keep their nose out of my business.

Imagine you're out at the local Starbucks with your kids (why the fuck I would go to Starbucks for their burnt coffee is beyond me) but lets say you're there, and the snooty asshole at the next table leans over and starts preaching to your kids how they should be vegans, or that there's no santa, etc. That's what this is like.

I'm pretty easy going if people keep their nose out of my business.

Imagine you're out at the local Starbucks with your kids (why the fuck I would go to Starbucks for their burnt coffee is beyond me) but lets say you're there, and the snooty asshole at the next table leans over and starts preaching to your kids how they should be vegans, or that there's no santa, etc. That's what this is like.

I'm pretty easy going if people keep their nose out of my business.

and what kind of schools were you guys going too when girls were giving bj's before grade 8? in my school at the worse we were playing spin the bottle but that's it

au contraire mom frere, i don't give two shits about speeders. in fact, anyone should have the freedom to do whatever they want, so long as it doesn't encroach on other people's freedoms. so by all means, go teach your 8 year olds about same-sex marriage, go show them how to masturbate, but just do it in your own home.

if taking an active role in my kids' lives makes me a helicopter parent, that's fine; i just call it parenting. accuse me of censoring. i simply don't care. i'm not raising my kids for you. i'm raising them for me. kids need censoring. they don't need goatse, or beheadings, or twerking.

and of course they'll be exposed to stuff from other kids at school. i accept that. but i also choose a school and a neighbourhood that most closely aligns with my personal values to limit exposure in both content and frequency. i still have to explain why some older kids cuss for no reason or why miley cyrus was swinging naked from a wrecking ball.

being devil's advocate here (as I am on the fence on the whole issue pending more information on roll out) I think you are imagining the worst possible delivery/education of these topics, just saying. All hell won't break loose...

So in that case you censor every tv show they watch, log each and every website they go on, who they hang out with and when.

Your being daft if you think you're doing the child any favours as if the world is going to wait before they hit your children with reality.

There'll be a child in your kids class that doesn't eat meat that will bring the topic up before a stranger, they'll be a grade 8 in recess running around telling kids santa isn't real before some random stranger. etc

The reason kids ignore what other say is because they choose to believe what they want & if they're unsure they ask their parents. But realistically with the hours most people work, good teachers spend more time with the kids than most parents.

There's way to approach the subject and there are assholes.

Telling kids how babies are made and what the risks are, are very different that saying that two men fuck each other in the ass for pleasure.


I got taught sex-ed in grade 5 and I feel it was too late. Grade 9 (high-school) would have been way too late.

The problem with your view is you're using your own beliefs to judge what should be applied to the new generation as if you actually had to come into contact with Lesbian & Gay parents at such a young age. The world is different since you went to school.


Old people never put their own insecurities/beliefs aside to think of what is actually happening in the world now. No where in the curriculum is it saying that homosexuality is "normal". What they are saying is that they're people that naturally swing that way and it's ok.

Vas has it exactly right about Bible belt. Right now you sound like the parents that's used to say masterbation is the devils work & that there's something wrong with the child.

Put your feelings aside about how you feel about "carpet munchers" & see that there is nothing wrong with children knowing that people sometimes prefer the same sex.

Nope, thats exactly what the new curriculum is saying, its normal
http://www.campaignlifecoalition.com/index.php?p=Sex_Ed_curriculum
Sure kids can know that it occurs, but to push the social engineering aspect of it that its normal, is pure BS.

I don't have an issue with learning about masturbation, its when its being taught and by who. That is my issue. You are going to teach kids about anal sex? Tell me if that isn't some gay agenda shit right there. Teach kids about reproduction, the risks, not the mechanisms FFS.

BTW, the middle school where the bj's were going down (just checked ranking to satisfy Canuck) was 994/1120

Thats anabysmally poor ranking.

My buddy attended the same school, now he's a diplomat in Brussels doing negotiations at the WTO for Caribbean countries.

Read your link again. It doesn't say "normal", it actually clearly says "some".


No one's teaching kids how to masterbate

tell me exactly what is so outrageous about this program based on the very limited info that we do have

Is he a homosexual doe?

Nope, he bangs as many sluts as he can get, but his brother is a homo (my close friend since childhood)

Nice backpedal bro.

Hey I am not racist because my close friend is chinese!!11one!!!

LMAO, its the truth doe....
My policy is I won't try to convert a gay guy to hetero, do your shit, I don't care. Don't try to tell my kids its normal doe, I'll be telling them it happens some people swing like that, uncle so and so is like that, but its not normal.

Either way, I've already had the discussion with my wife and private school it will be if this shit passes with no way to opt out.

That's exactly my point. Kids don't care, like they literally don't care. They're simply being informed. It's only extremely old school parents that do.

Like I know this parent that gets on edge when her child plays with black kids because on no, your going to influence my child to smoke weed at a later age. They're in elementary school give me a break.

At least now we know why are you are going off the deep end on this. I didn't think you were like this.

Kids React to Gay Marriage: http://youtu.be/8TJxnYgP6D8

This is exactly what I mean, by don't care. You know it too

Those are two completely different things. And kids may not care, its the parents job to care that they learn age and context appropriate things. Thats the point, if you want to abdicate your responsibilities and let the state teach that, be my guest

What's age & context appropriate?

Glad you asked that question, because you should be. But you don't care, let the gay premier and her pedophile curriculum writer decide it for your child right?

lol @ don't care

such reasoning wow logic

If you think a shitty school vs a rich school "stops" kids from being sexual you need to give your head a shake.

is that some kind of insult?

Euphoric, is that you? Next you are going to tell me how you are an expert on home theatre and TVs too right. I defer to your expertise, you've raised so many kids Such life experience.....

There are a lot of shitty parents out there. Stop preaching that its some kind of metric for measuring anyones value to this convo.

No, it just means that you and Risky are commenting on shit that you guys have no clue about, raising kids

Is this about raising kids (which i never talked about here) or about introducing a more comprehensive anatomy curriculum in Grade 3 and the helicopter parents who can't read or understand the implications and think the world is coming to an end?

The two are instrinsically linked, how can you comment about whats good for other people's kids when you have none of your own, and no experience to even begin to add anything of value to the convo. The mere suggestion that its a more comprehensive anatomy curriculum shows just how little you understand about the issue.

They aren't teaching grade 3s that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. They are teaching that that because you have a penis, doesn't mean you are boy, you may be transgender. How is that a more complete anatomical anything? Its social engineering at its finest.

For starters at least I don't lack rational judgement unlike you, jumping to conlusions, generalizing, projecting insecurities, ad hominems, and the such. I didn't say these new proposed changes are good or bad, but I am questioning your stance, which you've developed on limited information, personal insecurity, and ignorance.

Talking to you about this is the equivalent of discussing Obama in grass roots America where he is a known Kenyan muslim terrorist.

how can you comment about whats good for other people's kids when you have none of your own

this is asinine and demonstrates the helicopter parents full transformation to retard lizard brain.

You think you have any clue in commenting on whats best for other children? Simply by default of having kids. Thats some preggo brain logic right there. Congrats you nutted and it stuck. Level:expert.

You don't have any more clue for kids in general than anyone else unless its what your profession is(which its not).

What limited information, we already know whats going to be taught and when. If what is being taught to your kids and when, isn't about raising kids, then what is? Again, you prove you (and euphoric) know nothing about kids. Because having nephews and nieces is the same as deciding the right thing for your kids

Spend $5k on bike and gear, rides 84km a year.

Spend $15k on bike and gear, rides 8.4km a year.

Speaking of profession, did you read the article on who wrote the curriculum, read about the guy

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/07/08/...graphy-charges/

its like you writing a book on how to steal a bike.

whats the issue here?

You know you can just opt out of it if it bothers you so much.

P.S. I am not telling anyone how to raise their kids, that's just fabrication on your own end.

Y'all crazy if you don't think schools and geography and demographics don't play a part in what kids get exposed to.

I remember sex ed in grade 3 or 4. They taught the functions of our reproductive organs. With regards to the maturbation curriculum, how many of us were ever taught? None, I assume. And how many of us never figured it out? It's not needed. And anal sex? Why not throw in some handies and BJ's.

The only reason they put that in there is to push the sexualization of our kids. Everyone's is so anxious for kids to grow up, but as someone who works in children's animation and teaches kids art, I prefer to extended children's childhood and innocence.

And with regards to same-sex, it would be more appropriate to teach acceptance and tolerance of all, as opposed to focusing on gays alone. They should teach acceptance of gender, orientation, ethnicity, social/economic status, disabilities, etc. Don't kid yourselves, it's clearly a push of the liberal agenda.

I don't disregard that everyone should be allowed an opinion, but the ones with the highest stake in the game are parents, not the ones without kids, and not some academic bookworm. And while the actual changes may not be as drastic as I fear them to be, I have absolutely no faith in the provincial liberals.

I realize it's not the same as when we went to school, but grade 3? That's just crazy talk.

All three of you are old. Masterbation is already being taught at grade 5. By taught I mean it was talked about. So are you opt-in out of this sex-ed curriculum as well.

Because I'm sure you guys learned all about masterbation, homosexuals etc from your parents. I guess ignorance is bliss


In before it's the devils work & batty man fi bun

I did actually learn about a lot of that stuff from my parents. They had the talk with me, and yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUZlzd37sI

Can't you figure out jerking off all by yourself?

4Three I agree with you on the morality and the cultural views. It goes against a lot of cultures and a lot of these things should be kept private in terms of the how. But not all parents are proactive & a lot leave everything up to teachers. A lot of kids feel alone because their different leading to problems in school, drug abuse & even suicide.

I think the disconnect is your thinking that they're teaching kids the "how". How to be give bj's, how to masterbate etc. The teachers don't touch the how part not even in grade 9 and instead focus on the theory and simply that people have different preferences, then how each culture feels about the topic.

The main reason it's being brought up is because kids are hitting puberty at younger ages, there's no getting around that. Girls are getting their periods at 8 & 10 which is grade 5. It's hard to explain why that happens without giving the reasoning behind it. It's hard to explain why little Jimmy has a mustache in grade 5. Then why they don't find the opposite sex attractive etc. without talking about homosexuality.

They did cover disabilities along with drugs & suicides in grade 4. It was called V.I.P. (Values Influences & Peers) Did you not have that? They gave out a bright white, neon green and pink shirt as well.


Fuck you guys are making me feel like a baby, lol.

Fuzzy did you have V.I.P. what grade did you have sex ed?

Nah man I didn't have that V.I.P thing. We learned about reproductive organs, family and extended family dynamic....and that was about it for grade school. It wasn't until grade 9 gym class ( split boys/girls) that they showed how to put condoms on bananas to keep them fresh. We had this freshie Persian gym teacher and he literally put a porn on for 20mins and that was it lol