(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 08:51 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I am biased, but I was in a similar position close to a year ago.

I wanted a presentable beater/dd that's reliable/comfortable/peppy/etc. I looked at a ton of cars prior to that. I didn't consider the G35/37, don't like them at all (have driven multiple variants). Narrowed it down the 3rd gen TL, initially I was set on buying Jeff's is350...but timing didn't work in my favour. I looked at a few other ones but couldn't find something I liked and then my civic died so I was in a pinch.

Anyway the TL checked off all my boxes, I am extremely happy with the car, my only complain is the rear seats don't fold down and the turning radius sucks, so parking can be a pita in tight spots. Two very small draw backs, otherwise this is an amazing car, and an amazing value on the used market.

They also look pretty good $\:\)$

I had it rust proofed at regs in Scarborough right after I bought it.

LNXGUY

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 08:53 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I've always really liked those gens of TL's... Great pickup Vas.

(Post Master Sr)

10/04/14 09:42 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Is that your TL? It looks great, I've never driven one. Did going to FWD bother you? I don't mind when it's rental cars but we've become quite the RWD family.

Turning circle matters to me, as my GF and are deeply immersed in condo life and parking sucks. Fold down seats, I honestly never considered a modern car wouldn't have that - and I just found out the G sedan doesn't either.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 10:17 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Yea that's mine in the midst of a shady deal by the airport.

If we have a meet I will let you drive it. The turning radius isn't the worst but compared to a regular car you really have to make wide turns into spots or to solve that issue just start backing into spots - problem solved.

The fwd doesn't bother me as it's a daily. Sure there are times when I will give it a go out of a turn and it's sadface.gif but other than that I couldn't care less.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 10:21 AM

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Love that gen. TL.

Acura has nothing but shit to offer now. The TLX looks like a fucking accord and they toned down the ugly beak but then do the stupid jeweled headlights.

Wes the TL drives really nice imo. Great pick up for a used car.

Big Tasty

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 10:23 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Tsx would be a good contender aswell. Auto variant is kinda blah though.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 10:28 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

It is sad how many sellers are out to lunch. Nothing but a waste of time for everyone.

You can also buy products and rust proof yourself.

iamfob

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 01:26 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Get a TDI for DD

(Post Master Supreme)

10/04/14 11:09 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

IMO for a comfortable daily you want something comfortable, good on gas, reliable, and atleast isn't a 1996 Buick to drive; also it should be cost effective because let's face it, they get beat to shit hence why it's a daily. Vas made a great choice with the TL, that gen is wicked. I was looking at them myself but the only thing holding me back was the v6, I think I do a bit more driving than vas so I wanted the 4 banger.

I don't care what anyone says, fwd is fine, great in the winter, and if you want something sportier well that's what the emtree is for. I would look for a TL like vas, tsx, 2010 gen accord which can be had for cheap etc if you don't need a lot of room maybe a csx, it comes optioned pretty good nav, hids.

4age

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 08:01 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I also fall to understand driveline snobbery when most any rwd platform pushes so much out of the box that it makes no difference anyway. Plus, unless it sees track time, one would be hard pressed to reap the benefits of being able to get on the gas sooner on corner exit. I would also agree that fwd is a good choice for a dd. Efficient, easy traction and can drive well to boot. Want rotation? Trail the throttle or left foot brake. The latter arguably takes more finesse than throttle steering a rwd car on the street. I wouldn't rule out a nice fwd car. I haven't seen any mention of budget, but stuff like tsx, tl, accord seem like solid contenders. Or a Volvo (dunno howhu those are used though), or Saab or even a Subaru.
M
B8 a4 even? Get the avant! Zomg hot.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:26 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

+1 for that TL

if you go tsx, for sure avoid 2004, and even 2005 if possible tho u should be ok there. ideally the later the better. and yeah teh auto feels a bit sleepy, stick nice but if you must do auto then oh well.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:45 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 09:49 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Wow lots of TL love. I'll check it out see if its too big or something. I don't need rwd I just prefer it. I'm used to it and like how I won't typically spin when accelerating into a corner and how it seems with my cars anyway how the front end doesn't lift as much accelerating. I'll drive a to.

20k all in is OK but don't need to spend it all either.

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 09:51 AM

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Titty is right on the purpose but its also got to be nice enough to make me want to drive it not have to drive it.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 10:13 AM

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Drive the is350 as well, I really like them, but they aren't perfect either. Driving dynamics are kinda meh, I felt cramped inside but you won't have that issue.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 10:48 AM

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Aside from power the is350 really has nothing going for it. TL all the way, has more room and less of a gas hog compared to the IS and of course the TL frives nicer. Wes find a 6spd since those came with brembo fronts and a diff...fuck what happened with honda and making cool cars.

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 11:09 AM

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I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 12:19 PM

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G is a gas hog. I was getting high 12's with 80/20 city/hwy driving. It was not a bad car, mind you this was the coupe which I think is much much better looking compared to the sedan. That said TL is much better looking.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 02:48 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

It's not that bad on gas I am getting 10.5l/100km with mostly city driving. On the highway I can easily get mid to high 6l/100km. Considering side/weight I think it's pretty respectable.

that's not as bad as I thought. I avg about the same highway but im in the 7's (8's if I'm in a rush or getting on it) in the city. even still you getting that with a 6 I'd call pretty damn decent.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 02:49 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???

auto TL type S with oem kit. do it nao.

most of them are available in auto, I'm trying to retro those calipers onto the TSX.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 03:40 PM

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^Probably been done a million times. No diys out there ?

My shit box gets 9.1-9.5 on my rush hour commute plus weeks booting around. Highway does better. Not bad

The Postman

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 04:15 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Meh, Id buy a later model Si Sedan or CSX.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 06:08 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

I want auto this time cause I'll use it for road tripping etc too.

Why no g love whatsoever???

auto TL type S with oem kit. do it nao.

most of them are available in auto, I'm trying to retro those calipers onto the TSX.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU, that's a hot car. I love the body colour vs wheel colour contrast, that's pretty much perfect imo.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 07:52 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

What's the budget?
I am really tempted to sell the jeep and get a 2011 Infiniti m37 s
Like really really tempted

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 08:03 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

Lol Wut? And the 3-series doesn't look like the 335i or the 5 series or the 7 series? Hell the m3 is a 3 series on roids! Same thing with audi, a4,5 and 6, Jetta and passat. And the lights look good, better than then rice led strip that audi has that has made it's way to accords and caravans across Brampton. They for sure look better than that weird inner headlights thing benz is trying to pull off right now.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 08:53 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Dude you are the second biggest Honda humper on this board next to Screamin lol. Current Acura's all look like bags of shit. Just when you thought they couldn't make them any uglier with that grill and then they surprise you with those fucking headlights that look like they were bought off of ebay lol.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:08 PM

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Lol, did honda kick you in the nuts and steal your lunch money or some shit? Get past the badge bs and realise that Honda/Acura is still amazing value for the money. I'll admit they fell off for a bit when it comes to design but remember, their quality and reliability are still the same. Fit and finish are very comparable and in some cases even better; they just don't rape you on the price. See: 56k for entry level BMW 320i that is worse in every way even compared to an ilx. What does the BMW offer over it for all that extra money? A bit more hp? Who gives a crap, for a fun car ya but for a daily a Volkswagen rabbit has enough power for the DVP parking lot.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:40 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:46 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 09:51 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

Don't even bother talking about reliability, Honda today is not the same as the Honda's 10+ years ago. It's quite obvious Acura needs to be valued positioned since they offer ZERO for looks, how else are they going to get people to buy their heaps. Look at the steep discounts that Acura has to offer just to get rid their cars. I honestly don't care about badge so give me a break, I fucking DD a 1998 Civic so do you really think I care about fucking image? Listen you like the brand and that's great, but Acura/Honda has fucking dropped the ball HUGE for over a decade now. Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 10:00 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?

(Post Master Sr)

10/05/14 10:04 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: zc911

What's the budget?
I am really tempted to sell the jeep and get a 2011 Infiniti m37 s
Like really really tempted

Max 20k all in, but rather spend less.

Really, why the m37? What about towing? I guess you've have the jeep for a while.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 10:37 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I saw an elderly woman driving a M37, just like the pic. I was thinking to myself wtf do you need that power lol

(Post Master Supreme)

10/05/14 10:56 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 12:07 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

Lol dude nothing is the same as 10 years ago, look at Kia and Hyundai, are they the same? No, but Honda has still been dead nuts reliable. You need your eyes checked if you think they offer 0 for looks; your high if you think Chevy sedans look better, or Nissan, he'll even the 2014 3 series is questionable. acura has a few years that they fucked up the styling (the gen TL after riskys) but they corrected that, the ilx looks good, the RL looks sick, the mdx looks good, the Rdx looks decent (it's no Nissan juke) and the tlx looks wicked. Btw theres plenty of good looking cars these days, the ford fiesta, the kia optima, the Hyundai genesis , You just hatin lol

such ugly

I also saw a white ILX the other day, with the 5 spoke vossens and oem kit. car looked really good.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 12:19 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass

I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 02:43 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: JEFFOS

The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition

I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests

As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.

Huy009

(Post Master Sr)

10/06/14 07:38 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I defiantly like the new TLX, wouldn't mind having it part of my fleet in the future $\:\)$

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 07:49 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.

put
the
crack
pipe
down
lol

(Post Master Sr)

10/06/14 08:49 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: zc911

Originally Posted By: JEFFOS

The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition

I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests

As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.

That's how I feel. The M3 is quiet and comfy but I'm putting A LOT of kms on it. Honestly I thought the modern Jeep you have would have been quiet and comfy? Not luxury barge comfy but pretty good anyways. I was tossing around the idea of a diesel jeep.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 08:53 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD $;\)$

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 08:53 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

They are ugly doe. Titties tsx or whatever it is looks like ass

I fixed dat ugly doe. seriously I don't think my car looks mugly?

I want to like it, but it doesn't work for me, the front is especially bad $\:\($

Side profile/back are decent doe. Bigger wheels would help a lot and doing something about that front end, that lip has to go imo.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 08:57 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

Christ the new Corolla looks much better compared to the Civic.

put
the
crack
pipe
down
lol

Don't hate!

Senor Eduardo_82

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 09:16 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

New Corolla is has a really nice front end, but the rest is still meh. And I'm sure it's a total appliance to drive.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 10:41 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

Originally Posted By: zc911

Originally Posted By: JEFFOS

The m37 from what I hear drives like junk vs its competition

I read the opposite, beat the Benz, bmw, and Audi in magazine comparo tests

As for towing, I'll give it up, I spend 2.5 hours a day in my car sometimes more, I just want quiet comfy.

It's not terrible, I think I am just getting old. I want to be isolated from all noise for those 2.5 hours.
If you want to give it a try let me know, would be in your price range, I'd ask 19k I think

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 10:42 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

I would ignore zc911's reasoning, it usually makes no sense. Chalk it up to automotive ADD $;\)$

Maybe a bit lol

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 11:08 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

no sir dont like it

iamfob

(Post Master Supreme)

10/06/14 01:08 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Yep, new Corolla is nice...wtf?!?!!?

Compare to the previous 2 gen of Corolla, it was good looking.

The 2012-2013 Civic looks like shit, the 2014 has new tail lights and I like it.
But I would still choose a Corolla/Elantra over a Civic because insurance premium is always higher on the Civic.

(Post Master Sr)

10/07/14 10:12 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Did a lot of research, thinking, driving and looking at how cars wear, and I'm starting to lean TSX for a car to put lots of reliable kms on and loan out, road trips, etc.

titty you've got PM

Big Tasty

(Post Master Supreme)

10/07/14 12:36 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I had an 04 manual and i really enjoyed it (minus the oil consumption issue). Stay clear of the early models and you will do fine.

(Post Master Sr)

10/07/14 12:44 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Thanks for the input. I'd be doing an 09.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/07/14 02:48 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

pm sent back, btw the auto is 10x slower than the 6spd.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/08/14 08:31 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

DO NOT buy a land barge w/ 4 cyl + auto. The TSX isn't a small/light car (new gen). If you are going land barge and need auto you have to go with the V6. I am surprised that the new gen which is 3,400 lbs pretty much same my gen TL is even *fun* with a manual I4. I don't believe it, numbers don't add up, but I haven't driven one so I don't know. I am positive it's very uninspriing to drive doe.

How did you narrow it down to the TSX? Did you drive the IS350, which seems most fitting for you? Did you drive a TL?

Is this another one of those mid day epiphanies you had? I am going to assume you've already put a deposit on one at Faraz and associates $\:\|$

(Post Master Sr)

10/08/14 09:55 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I drove one with the auto it seemed ok. I drove the M3 to the dealer so of course it didn't feel like a sports car but I'm not looking for that. TL is too big. I've driven the IS250 a lot and didn't like it at all, how much different can it be?

No deposits left. I'm trying to not make the wrong choice here. Since you asked, I looked at all the cars mid teen's Japanese and German.

3 series - no thanks, I'm not buying a 3rd one and it'll be too similar and inferior to my M3.

5 series - too big

c class - Drove one, hated it.

e class - drove one, hated it (LOVED it, but it's ok to borrow from my parents)

A4 - maybe.

A6 - no thank you.

Honda - nope

Acura - TSX ok size, TL too big and would be end of model year to get the price right

Nissan/Infinity - All G's I've seen don't seem to wear well.

Toyota/Lexus - really didn't like the is250 and I'm not looking to mod to make it less squishy.

Mazda - nothing for me over there.

That takes me to TSX and A4. If I'm buying for some entry level luxury and long term reliability and maintenance costs seemed like the TSX is the winner. You think I should give the IS another shot?

(Post Master Supreme)

10/08/14 10:08 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Dude, please drive an IS350, it's a completely different car. I know most people here hate it, but I think it fits right into what you want.

I agree TL is a large car.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/08/14 10:34 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Is350, change the sway bars for the f sport ones (this is a must). Done. I would lower it but you don't have to do that.

You also need to put the red precut tail light vinyl over the Orange reflectors...

Make sure you get one that has a decent number of options.

(Post Master Sr)

10/08/14 12:21 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Ok I'll go drive an is350. Jeff, if comfortable PM me what you got for yours... I'm sure it'll hurt.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/08/14 02:32 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

drive mine. you're right, its a heavy(er) car, and i think it's just slightly smaller than your car, but it really doesn't feel like it. it doesn't roll, handles nice and responsive, and the 6spd is super short. i can city drive in 6th gear, often times skipping 5th. i think alot of the weight is from the stupid big gas tank, doesn't need to be that big imo.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/08/14 08:26 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/missi...gationFlag=true

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 07:39 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

^ Wes drive that one just to see (looks like a decent deal, comes with snows too). I don't know how different the typs S is, but it should be fun if my regular trim TL is a fun drive. I am assuming you are shying away from the TL because it's now 2 gens old?

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 08:36 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

my regular trim TL is a fun drive.

$\:\|$
such fun wow

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 08:39 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

i've driven them all, the TL-S quite the fun over the base, ESPECIALLY the 6spd...it hauls ass. it's noticeable when "you're on it". if you're just puddling along, then (of course) they feel similar. granted with the S, expected worse gas mileage and possibly slightly higher service cost (but not by much unless you pop something engine related).

(Post Master Sr)

10/09/14 09:01 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Correct on 2 gens old. And its big. I spend a lot of time in underground parking. My place. Gf. Groceries. Movies. Bachata class. Etc.

In NJ now. Will resume next week.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 09:09 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

The TL and new TSX are almost the same size, just a FYI:

Length
TL: 189.3" TSX: 185.6"

Width
TL: 72.2" TSX: 72.4"

Weight
TL: 3480 lbs TSX: 3400lbs

Yes it's 2 gens old, but they are cheaper and like you said the car will spend a lot of time in misc parking lots and getting beat up so it makes more sense. They also don't age as bad as infinitis that you are looking. Again, not trying to convince you to buy one, just saying value wise I think they are your best bet out of the stuff you've listed.

But if you want to spend at the max of your budget get the IS350.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 09:11 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R

30hp makes that big of a diff?

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 09:12 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

with a 6 spd. Of course.

maxin relaxin in my auto base TL. ya bro , such fun wow many feelz. Dat couch

hyper-s2k

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 09:14 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?

TL is only longer by 10 cm and wider by 5 cm -- unless you're squeezing into tight spots or cutting in and out of traffic all the time; it's pretty much the same size.

This point would stand for a 3 vs. 5 series - there's a 30 cm difference and could be a deal breaker in parking into a garage of newer cookie cutter homes.

IS250 is under powered -- 350 is ok... if you're a power monger, find a used IS-F .. '08 and '09s are decently priced.

(Post Master Sr)

10/09/14 09:17 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Alright I'll go drive one. I'm sure its a nice car and being 2 gens old the value is there. Can you pm me Specs on yours vas?

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 09:40 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R

30hp makes that big of a diff?

even in this heavy of a car, fuck yeah. esp the 6spd meng.
drove them back to back couple years ago and it's noticeable.

Huy009

(Post Master Sr)

10/09/14 09:45 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 10:10 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: hyper-s2k

TSX is ok in size but TL is too big?

Is350 is the fastest thing on his list by a long shot with the exception of the is-f you suggested.

A2B-Lexus

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 10:53 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Huy009

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8

at 127km....it is just a baby.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 12:54 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

dude, fuck all these opinions...i got what you need right here...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/markh...gationFlag=true

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-...gationFlag=true

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/missi...gationFlag=true

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/missi...gationFlag=true

once you go beige, you never go back

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:17 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Huy009

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8

Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:29 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: zc911

Originally Posted By: Huy009

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8

Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!

ummm wth? it's been around that long and it's that cheap already? horrycow! that'd be a nice pickup for the money lol...

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:30 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: zc911

Originally Posted By: Huy009

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Lexus/IS+F/ETOBICOKE/Ontario/19_8392503_/?showcpo=ShowCPO&orup=2_15_8

Fuck that's awesome. Gotta love depreciation. I'd buy that right now!

There is something fishy about that price for sure...

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:32 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

lol used IS-F as a daily? did i read that right?

5.0ltr V8 20.2 average mpg.....

and risky, there's a difference between gens,

2010 TL length: 195.5 in TSX: 185.6 in

TL width: 74.0 in TSX: 72.4 in

TL weight: 3,948 lbs (sh-awd) TSX: 3,470 lb (6spd is 70lbs lighter)

but you're right, your gen TL and the second gen tsx are about the same size/weight.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:35 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

thats not bad doe

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:35 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

what are they lke to work on?

if they are anything like 90's lexus..stay far far away. although tanks in their own right when shit goes wrong(and it obviously can) they are a giant PITA to work on.

A2B-Lexus

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:48 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.

My EP could be my winter beater and this could be my summer ride.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:49 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

thats not bad doe

i have a buddy with one. it iz bad doe.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:55 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: A2B-Civic

Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.

of course they are "bullet proof"...but only to a certain point. Even those cars need work. and GOOD FUCKING NIGHT trying to work on them. they were not designed for that what so ever.

Im curious if that continues with models of today...

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 02:56 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

20 mpg 5.0L v8. not bad at all.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 03:00 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

20 mpg is still 20 mpg...of premium fuel. perfect for a daily doe! op is clubsi ballin.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 03:40 PM

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(Post Master Supreme)

10/09/14 07:33 PM

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(Post Master Sr)

10/09/14 10:11 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

LOL no IS-F.

I really like that model of TL, I'll go drive one. Not sure I need a type-s. This one would be perfect.

http://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/Acura/TL/Bra...PO&orup=7_25_16

Maybe I'll make the drive out Tuesday after the long weekend. I appreciate all the input. I didn't realize the 08 TL was so close to the 09 TSX in size. Comfort for this car matters more to me than handling.

(Post Master Sr)

10/09/14 10:12 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: titty sprinkles

20 mpg is still 20 mpg...of premium fuel. perfect for a daily doe! op is clubsi ballin.

LOL!

And my current ride gets 15mpg.

A2B-Lexus

(Post Master Supreme)

10/10/14 08:52 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Originally Posted By: A2B-Civic

Whats wrong with 90s Lexus? They've always given me the impression that they are bullet proof.

No problem for me. I am a wallet mechanic. Changing the light bulbs would be my extent of "working" on the car. LOL

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 08:16 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

update?

btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 08:27 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

update?

btw, saw a TLX rolling around last night, dayuuumm. I like a lot!

it may have been one of ours lol, was driving a few of them 2wks ago for mileage...it's a nice car man. i think it went on sale about a week ago? i've seen 3-4 on the road already. looks nice in black, but there's this crazy gray colour (we have one here at the office), that's almost a matte paint but with a shine/sheen in it...very different.

the 8 and 9 spd trans's are so smooth it's nuts, the 4cyl feels like a small V6, the ride is nice too...better than RLX even lol. as for look, eih...typical 4dr lines, weird acura front but i love the rear end/lights.

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 08:30 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I saw a black one last night at leslie/16

I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 08:34 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

lol prob. it's the usual acura front end, not that bad but same old crap. the higher trim levels have much nicer wheel/tire combos on them too.

(Post Master Sr)

10/17/14 09:07 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Only thing I've driven recently was a 2010 TL, wanted to see if I'd fall in love with the interior. I liked it a lot but it's too much money for a clean one with the options I want. Going out tomorrow to finally drive an 08 TL, but from all research it's looking like it'll be the car - let's see if driving it confirms that. I still struggle with the fact that I can get a TSX that's a model year newer for similar pricing but I know it's "less car".

Big Tasty

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 09:55 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Not sure which years had the issue but I do remember many people reporting of cracked dashboards in their TL. Something to be aware of if looking.

http://acurazine.com/forums/problems-fixes-114/cracked-dashboard-04-tl-688828/

spd-dmn

(Post Master)

10/17/14 10:05 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

crack crack crack crack, crack cocaiiiine

4age

(Post Master Sr)

10/17/14 10:10 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R

the 4cyl feels like a small V6

Doesn't that just means it feels like a 4 cylinder? XD

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 12:05 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 4age

Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R

the 4cyl feels like a small V6

Doesn't that just means it feels like a 4 cylinder? XD

NO! cause that'd mean it's a 5cyl then, LIKE DUH!

XD

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 02:23 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

haha 5cyl, power of a 4, fuel efficency of a V6

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 02:30 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

they sound so good doe

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/60062/audi-confirms-5-cylinder-rs3-rules-out-rs1-report

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 02:39 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

(Post Master Supreme)

10/17/14 02:57 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

I saw a black one last night at leslie/16

I also saw the rear/side profile, couldn't get to the front, maybe that's why it looked so good

they look good. i got invited to some kind of TLX release party at acura north toronto with food and give aways and test drives. i'm going to go on my break and hopefully get to test drive one.

they have been for sale for the last little bit no? north toronto has a beautiful white one with nav and oem kit...hngggg. the wheels are blasted mugly tho. they are also really small inside.

(Post Master Sr)

11/01/14 04:26 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

update?

From way back...

Drove lots of stuff.
- a few <=08 TL's
- a few >=09 TL's
- a few TSX's
- Many is350's
- Many G37(x)'s
- a few e class' (dad was buying an on paper fits my criteria)
- a few 5 series'
- a few c class'
- a few A4's

Tried to buy a few cars in there, including one really nice is350, but we were always too far apart. Finally, bought a 2009 G37x. Black on black, premium package, navigation package, and technology package, winter and summer wheels.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/01/14 04:32 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Ewww $\:\/$

(Post Master Supreme)

11/01/14 06:19 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Ewww $\:\/$

+1 but doesn't surprise me from op to be honest.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/01/14 06:22 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I think it will be a good solid daily driver

(Post Master Supreme)

11/01/14 06:24 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Bang for the buck they are the best cars out there, for me it's living with the fit and finish of the car, can't do it. Is350 would've been a much better buy.

(Post Master Sr)

11/01/14 07:51 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I wanted an IS but inventory is scarce and I paid about $5000 less for this than what people were wanting for IS's. I tried. I really like the G too, not sure if you guys have driven them.

Jeff, I hope so too. Need to also remember I daily an M3, this is my beater.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/01/14 08:58 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

The IS250/350 drives like shit for its class, same shit as the c-class of that gen. NOT GOOD. G37 and TL of the same gen. are great handling cars. Good choice IMO, however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol

Wildout

(Post Master Jr)

11/02/14 02:50 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

however it's probably just as thristy as the M3 lol

came to post this

spd-dmn

(Post Master)

11/02/14 06:59 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 11:26 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: spd-dmn

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 11:37 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Hatorade

You have no idea what you are talking about, for starters lumping in the IS250 and IS350 as if it's the same car and then telling me the IS350 is a worse car in relation to a G37, lol ok man. If you are talking strictly driving the G37 does feel a bit sportier, I agree the IS350 can feel a but underwhelming in relation, but we are splitting hairs here, both are fat automatic pigs. I like the more refined IS350 feel to be honest.

The IS350 is better than a G37 in every imaginable way except price...which you get back when you sell as they have better resale anyway. Damn Lexus hater, holy crap.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 11:42 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.

Choco 'Nuck

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 11:59 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Whats wrong with daily driving an M3? I did it for 6 years

(except for winter of course)

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 12:49 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Have you seen the mpg for the v8?

4age

(Post Master Sr)

11/02/14 02:04 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?
bc you sure aint saving much gas on the g37x over the m3!!!

PS, spd-dmn, 13L/100 is pretty damn good in my books XD XD XD XD XD
I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 02:35 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 4age

maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?

I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car.

(omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet

)

wow maths, making sense.

If you can't afford to put mileage on a half a decade old m3 then you shouldn't buy it. /rant

Not saying this is OP's situation, just hatorading on stupidity in general $\:D$

(Post Master Sr)

11/02/14 02:45 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I'll reply more from a real computer later. The M3 doesnt feel special after driving it in traffic all the time so an auto sedan has a place in my life then when I go use the M3 it'll be Clean and feel nice. Fuelly and fueleconomy.gov says I'll get a 20-25% increase in economy. Also I'm not sure I ever said that was an issue. I have made comments but not sure I ever said it was breaking me.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 02:47 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 87ZCSi

Perfectly reasonable, I don't like driving my m3 in regular conditions at all, it's a fucking drag to be honest. Would much rather chill in a luxury automatic pig $\:D$

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 03:35 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

M3 is a soft luxo pig doe

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 03:36 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: 4age

I'm averaging 14 ahahahaha

dafuq

(Post Master Sr)

11/02/14 04:39 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I average 14-17 in the M3

RIC3BOY

(Jr Member)

11/02/14 06:01 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I'm still waiting to drive that M3.

hyper-s2k

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 08:25 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: 4age

maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?

I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car.

(omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet

How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?

iamfob

(Post Master Supreme)

11/02/14 10:30 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: spd-dmn

+1

If I am buying a new DD to preserve my MM3, it will be a car runs on regular gas, average under 9L/100 km, automatic. No way I am buying a DD that requires premium gas

4age

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 07:30 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Check the fuel consumption!
This was after a short city jaunt XD /probablydriveslikeeuphoric

18.8L, baby!

(Post Master Supreme)

11/03/14 08:02 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Did the car even warm up there?

(Post Master Supreme)

11/03/14 08:05 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: hyper-s2k

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

Originally Posted By: 4age

maybe this beater is just to preserve the m3?
save it from winter use?

I always laugh at this logic.

Spend 25k after tax on a winter beater to preserve a 45k car.

(omg my car is an investment/asset, wow warren such buffet

How much is a TL vs. a e36 m3 again?

TL is like $250, M3 is basically scrap metal.

4age

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 08:16 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Euphoric

Did the car even warm up there?

I always warm up the car. Even if I make a short trip (say 3km away), I drive around for 15 minutes prior + let it idle at cold start for around 30 sec before finishing my trip. At the very minimum, I want oil to get to operating temp.

So to answer your question, yes XD That pic is after a half hour of driving in 10 degree weather. The car is just baad in the city. That # is like all time fuel consumption doe. With track in there

(Post Master Supreme)

11/03/14 08:34 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

just normal driving or ripping it all over?

thats crazy for a new "efficient" v6.

Choco 'Nuck

(Post Master Supreme)

11/03/14 08:48 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Faaaacck! Even my 5500lb beast isn't that bad on diesel

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 09:33 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

Whats wrong with daily driving an M3? I did it for 6 years

(except for winter of course)

Nothing at all, and I never complained about economy either. I love daily driving it but traffic sucks so I'll admit an auto is nice from time to time. Also I take road trips so 2000-3000kms in the M3 for a weekend just doesn't make sense. Further, GF won't drive the M3 so unless we take her car (which doesn't have cruise FWIW) I'm doing all the driving. Also I like the M3, A LOT, and I've put 13000kms on it in 6 months, 2.5 of which I've been out of the country. I'd rather it not have 200k on it before I know it. Further, rod bearings are getting done in March, I want to do them myself and just don't have the time or resources now. Besides, I can, so why not.

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 09:47 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Risky Business

So let's hear your opinion on all the cars you drove, just curious. Post up pics of the G.

No pics available as of yet. To be honest I can see the deal falling through. I'll post about that once I know for sure.

Disclaimer - results and opinions may not be typical, these are based off the samples I had access to within my budget.

<=08 TL's - nice car, would have to do timing belts on all that I had seen, drove type-s and non, liked them both but the drive was a little harsh for what I wanted. Kept in back of my mind it's a FWD.

>=09 TL's - really nice car, but, tooooo big. Turn around and look at back seat passengers it was like I was in a town car. Also, hard to get with all the packages I wanted in my price.

TSX's - I liked this, but, it's very entry level luxury car, which is fine. Resale is quite high on these.

is350's - most were BEATTTTTTT. The paint must be as thin as a piece of paper. interiors seemed to hold up alright though. I liked the drive however I'd drive two back to back and seats would feel different. Road noise too but that was the tires. I tried to buy one of these but we were too far apart.

G37(x)'s - had that substantial luxurious feel. Lots of amenities. Only offering here (I believe) with intelligent cruise. Easy to find with decent features. Paint isn't awesome on these either but compared to the IS's it was awesome. AWD is nice. The one I bought comes with winter and summers.

e class' - nice to drive but I'm just not old enough for this. I drove an 08 E300 to buy the G37x actually.

5 series' - too big, and honestly compared to the M3 the materials in other BMW's in my price range were not the premium packages so I didn't want a car that's so similar but offering an inferior experience.

c class' - felt small, cramped, econo box ish, expensive, vinyl? Really?

<09 A4's - See c class but inexpensive.

One thing I did notice is that as cars were aging people were skimping out on matching tires, rotors with pads (>2 sets of pads / rotor with huge lips), cheap noisy tires, etc.

(Post Master Supreme)

11/03/14 10:30 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

chinese tires are way too common these days

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 10:58 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I've got Sailun's on the F150 and they've been ok but it's a beater truck and it came with them. The Sailun's that came on the E300 are pretty good but they're brand new.

4age

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 11:51 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

Originally Posted By: Chocolate Canuck

Faaaacck! Even my 5500lb beast isn't that bad on diesel

waiiiiiiiit.
first, your 5500lb beast is diesel XD
Second, my 18.8l/100 is all time. So that includes lapping days. My real mpg is around 13l/100 per tank. 13 to 14. I drive mainly city doe, and I beat on it after all temps are nominal $\:D$

4age

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 11:53 AM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

87zcsi, u found 5 series to be inferior in experience to m3 even in the interior? which gen 5 did u test? The 5s seem quite nice in the interior imo. the leather is better, and the trim/switch gear in general are nicer.

......or maybe it's bc i am comparing m5 to m3. m5 is nicer inside fo sho (e60 m5 vs e90 m3)

(Post Master Sr)

11/03/14 01:15 PM

Re: Secondary cars and rust check

I believe it's cause you're comparing M's. The ones in my budget were leatherette.