"The method they use to get power is a huge problem. Most wifi thermostats require a C wire so they can power themselves. The issue is, many homes don't have an extra wire to use for this purpose. So in attempt to remain DIY friendly, they implemented a technology referred to in our industry as 'power stealing' which tries to get power from the HVAC control wires and is notorious for many problems. Might as well just be straightforward about it and require a C wire in the first place. There are kits such as Venstar's 'add a wire' which make it easier to solve the problem without having to pull wire."

it's ok. honestly you'll get more value/savings out of a new high-eff furnace (and half decent programmable thermostat)...than you will from just changing to a nest. i have net access from anywhere to my peaksaver unit. nest is cool tho.

Screw that peak saver nonsense. I don't want the utility turning down my AC temp in the summer when its 36 degrees outside and busineses are running AC with doors wide open.

Oh, I also won't run nest now that Google has bought them. Too much information concentrated in one place. Call me paranoid, but I'm also the guy who doesn't have a facebook account

Well, my house is currently at 15.5C ... 18-19C when I'm home, but it's starting to be un-fucking-bearable... 21C I think is the sweet spot when I'm home, 17 away.

15.5...that's cold y0.

^^ It did last summer for my neighbours when the utility raised the temp on the thermostat on one of the hottest days of the year. So much for that bullshit of saving energy, but they won't tackle the biggest consumers (businesses).

^^ It did last summer for my neighbours when the utility raised the temp on the thermostat on one of the hottest days of the year. So much for that bullshit of saving energy, but they won't tackle the biggest consumers (businesses).

Are you sure you only have 4 wires? <SNIP> The tstat wire is terminated in there, verify it's actually just 4 wires.

You moved in already? Why you no invite csi for house warming?

So how do you like it man, what you doing all alone in a big house like that?

When will I see you at Foodymart/Sunny or you a garden basket type of baller like my wife.

I'll double-triple check this wkend. I followed the 4 wires (in a sleeve) down into the furnace connectors, and it sure looked like 4.

From what I can tell, the 'Add-A-Wire' wizardry seems to work, although you 'may' get an E26 error or something on the Nest...




It's a big ass house, and the amount of shit/knick knacks that one accumulates over the years is insane, as is the little knick knack shit you buy/need when you move into a new home (more garbage cans, fucking clear garbage bags, etc.)

Home is fucking freezing - I immediately ripped out all the carpet and had hardwood installed on days 1, 2 of home ownership. The carpet does indeed 'feel' warmer, but I'm accustomed to hardwood. Will need to install a humidifier when I install AC in a couple mths ...

My fridge has 1 RedBull, bunch of beer, and coke

Where abouts did you buy, near Mt. joy? Pm me if you want, your call, i will find you EL one day anyway so I recommend sharing so you don't find me waiting for you in your garage with a crow bar.

Congrats, first few months of home ownership were stressful...no money, hanging in there by a string (financially) and A LOT of fucking expenses.

Congrats, first few years of home ownership were stressful...no money, hanging in there by a string (financially) and A LOT of fucking expenses.

thank you for correcting and adjusting for truth.

Who the hell can buy within their means these days? Even a few yrs ago?

Barrie still falls under retarded pricing.
:p

Who the hell can buy within their means these days? Even a few yrs ago?

You can't afford to live in Barrie? Shit man, it's not that expensive.

prices have seen similar retarded increases

I'm just gonna buy next door to you. We can set up a treehouse string phone for late night whispers

I'm just gonna buy next door to you. We can set up a treehouse string phone for late night whispers

Last night I had a dream, we bought matching side by side mansions! But, there was a secret tunnel connecting your front yard to my back yard. What do you think that means?

Was thinking of getting a Honeywell Tstat and my current wire config doesn't have a c-wire. But Honeywell says the g-wire can be used as a sub. Is this the same issue as Nest's?
http://youtu.be/jniws7wqeY4

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

do you want to lose control of your ability to run the fan manually?

all they are doing is swapping wires because they need a common wire for proper current consumption that the wifi draws from the board. since it only had 4 wires they can't lose control of the fan so that jumper tricks the fan to come on when heating/cooling is called for.

I would rather just run a new wire for common to the board and still have control. if your basement isn't finished it would be a good idea.

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?

Thanks.
I really have no need to run the fan manually.
My basement is finished but where the furnace is it's not so I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be to run the extra wire.
Do you do this kinda thing for work?

how far is your tstat from the furnace?

It's a super easy fix, swap G to C on both the furnace board and thermostat.

please paypal me my standard fee of $95/hour.

It's almost right above it.

That's what I mentioned before in my post above with the link to a YouTube vid.
Is the only issue not being able to manually control the fan? Anything else?