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#8288054 - 07/13/15 04:28 PM Canada is on verge of recession
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http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-on-brink-of-full-blown-recession-2015-7

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Summing Up
The Canadian economy is no longer the darling of the G7, now that it is experiencing recessionary conditions;
To a large extent, the weakness is due to totally exogenous forces and out of the hands of Canadian policy makers, e.g. the stunning decline in all commodity prices ;
To a lesser extent, a relatively tight monetary policy combined with an overvalued exchange rates are well within in the purview of the policy makers.

On July 15th the BOC meets to set the bank rate. Upper most in their minds will be the 'atrocious' first quarter and, in particular, the weakness in the external sector, so vital to the health of the Canadian economy. A lot will be riding on that meeting. Stay tuned.
To avoid the technical measure of a recession, the economy needs to record increases of 0.2% and 0.3% in May and June, respectively---- a tall order given the performance to date. Analysts are whispering among themselves on the probability of a full recession by the end of the summer.

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#8288137 - 07/13/15 05:25 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: furball]
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#8288329 - 07/13/15 07:10 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Denis Si]
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currently 33% split on bankers thinking there's going to be a rate hike.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...rticle25475557/

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Until a few days ago, financial markets saw a cut in the central bank’s key rate, to 0.5 per cent from the current 0.75 per cent, as a 50/50 coin toss; most of the economists at the country’s six big banks believed a cut was likely. But after last Friday’s employment statistics for June, which showed a small decline in jobs in the month but suggested that the labour market continues to hold up quite well, traders aren’t so sure. Overnight index swaps, the key bond-market indicator of central-bank interest-rate expectations, were signalling by Friday afternoon that the market had trimmed its call to a 33-per-cent chance of a rate cut this week.
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#8288445 - 07/13/15 08:25 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: zaius]
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but hey...at least the Pan Am CEO made good money

Edited by loudsubz (07/13/15 08:47 PM)

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#8288446 - 07/13/15 08:26 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: loudsubz]
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#8288614 - 07/13/15 10:37 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: c2k]
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#8288743 - 07/14/15 04:22 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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Well, there goes my US shopping trips.
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#8288779 - 07/14/15 06:50 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Choco 'Nuck]
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Edited by furball (07/14/15 06:50 AM)

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#8288934 - 07/14/15 09:11 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: furball]
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And this is a surprise?

Oil industry collapse, retailers closing... nobody saw this coming?
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#8288959 - 07/14/15 09:27 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Just A Troll]
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#8289023 - 07/14/15 10:11 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: ]
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When the next recession comes, my balbi is ready to buy bank stocks. I remember BNS stocks was at $23/share at the lowest point, I didn't buy and now regret it. Also i am hoping the price of real estate cools down, I would like to buy a condo in downtown Toronto. Gotta get that M postal code son!
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#8289069 - 07/14/15 10:34 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: iamfob]
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 Originally Posted By: iamfob
When the next recession comes, my balbi is ready to buy bank stocks. I remember BNS stocks was at $23/share at the lowest point, I didn't buy and now regret it. Also i am hoping the price of real estate cools down, I would like to buy a condo in downtown Toronto. Gotta get that M postal code son!


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#8289169 - 07/14/15 11:45 AM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: c2k]
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I don't think Toronto is going to be as affected as the rest of Canada. Same goes for BC
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#8289244 - 07/14/15 12:19 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: JEFFOS]
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I think Toronto is going to be the biggest one affected. Haven't you seen all the car manufacturing going to Mexico? And now Chrysler is warning Wynne to back off with the provincial pensions system and the cap and trade emission scheme.

Ontario, and Toronto by extension, WILL be affected.

The question is: How badly?
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#8289253 - 07/14/15 12:23 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Just A Troll]
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Im in line with that thinking too.
both are part of the driving force in our economy . How could they not be?
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#8289339 - 07/14/15 01:05 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Euphoricuck]
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not just automotive, but any manufacturing jobs would be affected as well.

this is in ontario alone

WHAT ONTARIO HAS LOST

It’s estimated this province has lost almost 500,000 manufacturing jobs since 2002. Here’s just a few of the once iconic companies that have shuttered:

2015 — Unilever, makers of soup mixes, announced it will move its plant from Bramalea to Missouri in 2016 — 280 job losses.
2015 — Lear Corp. in Kitchener expected to close in 2016 — 155 jobs.
2014 — Kellogg’s closed its 75-year-old plant after 100 years in London, putting 500 out of work.
2014 — H.J. Heinz closed plant in Leamington after more than 100 years, leaving 740 factory workers and 350 migrant workers without jobs.
2014 — E.D. Smith, Seaforth, makers of salad dressing — 180 jobs.
2014 — Resolute Forest Products shuts mill in Iroquois Falls — 180 jobs.
2012 — Caterpillar in London closed its ElectroMotive Diesel plant — 560 job losses.
2011 — Siemens Hamilton — 550 jobs.
2011 — Navistar, Chatham — 1,000 jobs.
2011 — St. Thomas Ford Assembly Plant closes — 1,500 jobs.
2010 — GM transmission plant, Windsor — 500 job losses.
2010 — Xstrata Copper Timmins — 670 jobs.
2009 — Campbell Soup, Listowel, closes — 500 job losses.
2009 — John Deere moves from Welland to Mexico — 800 job losses.
2009 — Volvo Construction Equipment closes in Goderich — 500 job losses.
2009 — Daimler Heavy Truck in St. Thomas — 1,400 jobs lost.
2009 — W.C. Wood Co., appliance manufacturer, Guelph — 400 jobs.
2008 — Simmons Mattress in Brampton — 150 job losses.
2008 — CanGro canning plant in St. Davids closed after more than 100 years — 149 job losses.
2005 — Abitibi shuts Kenora Mill Operation — 390 jobs lost.


Sauce: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/13/uncertainty-puts-ontario-blue-collar-jobs-at-risk

yes it's toronto sun, stfu. i read it at mcdonalds this am.
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#8289354 - 07/14/15 01:10 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: c2k]
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 Originally Posted By: c2k
not just automotive, but any manufacturing jobs would be affected as well.

this is in ontario alone

WHAT ONTARIO HAS LOST

It’s estimated this province has lost almost 500,000 manufacturing jobs since 2002. Here’s just a few of the once iconic companies that have shuttered:

2015 — Unilever, makers of soup mixes, announced it will move its plant from Bramalea to Missouri in 2016 — 280 job losses.
2015 — Lear Corp. in Kitchener expected to close in 2016 — 155 jobs.
2014 — Kellogg’s closed its 75-year-old plant after 100 years in London, putting 500 out of work.
2014 — H.J. Heinz closed plant in Leamington after more than 100 years, leaving 740 factory workers and 350 migrant workers without jobs.
2014 — E.D. Smith, Seaforth, makers of salad dressing — 180 jobs.
2014 — Resolute Forest Products shuts mill in Iroquois Falls — 180 jobs.
2012 — Caterpillar in London closed its ElectroMotive Diesel plant — 560 job losses.
2011 — Siemens Hamilton — 550 jobs.
2011 — Navistar, Chatham — 1,000 jobs.
2011 — St. Thomas Ford Assembly Plant closes — 1,500 jobs.
2010 — GM transmission plant, Windsor — 500 job losses.
2010 — Xstrata Copper Timmins — 670 jobs.
2009 — Campbell Soup, Listowel, closes — 500 job losses.
2009 — John Deere moves from Welland to Mexico — 800 job losses.
2009 — Volvo Construction Equipment closes in Goderich — 500 job losses.
2009 — Daimler Heavy Truck in St. Thomas — 1,400 jobs lost.
2009 — W.C. Wood Co., appliance manufacturer, Guelph — 400 jobs.
2008 — Simmons Mattress in Brampton — 150 job losses.
2008 — CanGro canning plant in St. Davids closed after more than 100 years — 149 job losses.
2005 — Abitibi shuts Kenora Mill Operation — 390 jobs lost.


Sauce: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/13/uncertainty-puts-ontario-blue-collar-jobs-at-risk

yes it's toronto sun, stfu. i read it at mcdonalds this am.


FUCKIN' TORONTO! AM I RIGHT FELLAS!!!!!

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#8289365 - 07/14/15 01:17 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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 Originally Posted By: TheRealCSnapper
 Originally Posted By: c2k
not just automotive, but any manufacturing jobs would be affected as well.

this is in ontario alone

WHAT ONTARIO HAS LOST

It’s estimated this province has lost almost 500,000 manufacturing jobs since 2002. Here’s just a few of the once iconic companies that have shuttered:

2015 — Unilever, makers of soup mixes, announced it will move its plant from Bramalea to Missouri in 2016 — 280 job losses.
2015 — Lear Corp. in Kitchener expected to close in 2016 — 155 jobs.
2014 — Kellogg’s closed its 75-year-old plant after 100 years in London, putting 500 out of work.
2014 — H.J. Heinz closed plant in Leamington after more than 100 years, leaving 740 factory workers and 350 migrant workers without jobs.
2014 — E.D. Smith, Seaforth, makers of salad dressing — 180 jobs.
2014 — Resolute Forest Products shuts mill in Iroquois Falls — 180 jobs.
2012 — Caterpillar in London closed its ElectroMotive Diesel plant — 560 job losses.
2011 — Siemens Hamilton — 550 jobs.
2011 — Navistar, Chatham — 1,000 jobs.
2011 — St. Thomas Ford Assembly Plant closes — 1,500 jobs.
2010 — GM transmission plant, Windsor — 500 job losses.
2010 — Xstrata Copper Timmins — 670 jobs.
2009 — Campbell Soup, Listowel, closes — 500 job losses.
2009 — John Deere moves from Welland to Mexico — 800 job losses.
2009 — Volvo Construction Equipment closes in Goderich — 500 job losses.
2009 — Daimler Heavy Truck in St. Thomas — 1,400 jobs lost.
2009 — W.C. Wood Co., appliance manufacturer, Guelph — 400 jobs.
2008 — Simmons Mattress in Brampton — 150 job losses.
2008 — CanGro canning plant in St. Davids closed after more than 100 years — 149 job losses.
2005 — Abitibi shuts Kenora Mill Operation — 390 jobs lost.


Sauce: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/13/uncertainty-puts-ontario-blue-collar-jobs-at-risk

yes it's toronto sun, stfu. i read it at mcdonalds this am.


FUCKIN' TORONTO! AM I RIGHT FELLAS!!!!!




I was gonna say that at the end but decided not to bc I knew you'd reply with that statement for me.
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#8289375 - 07/14/15 01:21 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: c2k]
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#8289383 - 07/14/15 01:29 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: TheRealCSnapper]
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some of those companies probably operated in toronto many years ago, but there was a mass exodus in years past as the area grew.
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#8289665 - 07/14/15 03:34 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: Just A Troll]
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 Originally Posted By: J.A.C.N.
And this is a surprise?

Oil industry collapse, retailers closing... nobody saw this coming?


Nope. People are still buying used Ferraris. \:D

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#8289685 - 07/14/15 03:49 PM Re: Canada is on verge of recession [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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let's just say our yearly electricity peak demands are lower every year. and i don't think it's mainly due to electricity conservation like CFL lightbulbs.

we're totally losing industry every year and not gaining it back.
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