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#8788021 - 09/12/16 02:55 PM FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now?
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So Saturday I put gas in the Mini and then the next day as I'm putting gas in the Suzuki I realize that I don't remember putting in premium. So when I get home I look at the receipt and low and behold I put 87 in the Mini. I basically filled it and then drove home, max 15kms. Haven't touched it since (not because of the gas but because its always like that). Anyway, this is the first time I've done this. I guess I could just buy a bottle of octane booster and be done with it?
The shitty part is this gas will likely be in the car for a while as I don't really drive it all that much. And even if I decided to drive it to work everyday that would still take a while because I'm 4kms from work (both ways!)

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#8788027 - 09/12/16 02:58 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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1 bottle of octane boost barely does anything.
Don't worry - these things all have knock sensors. Dont drive it hard, don't put it in a high load situation (ie: starting in 2nd gear or moderate accelerations)...and run the tank low until you can pop proper fuel in there.

The car will automatically pull a ton of timing and drive like poo. This is the ECU saving the engine - you should expect this.
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#8788029 - 09/12/16 02:59 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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also a 4km commute is a horrible thing for a car @_@
it'll never burn off condensation in the motor
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#8788030 - 09/12/16 02:59 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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why don't you walk XD
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#8788034 - 09/12/16 03:01 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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if you really want to, you could just siphon it out?
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#8788035 - 09/12/16 03:01 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
LOL
1 bottle of octane boost barely does anything.
Don't worry - these things all have knock sensors. Dont drive it hard, don't put it in a high load situation (ie: starting in 2nd gear or moderate accelerations)...and run the tank low until you can pop proper fuel in there.

The car will automatically pull a ton of timing and drive like poo. This is the ECU saving the engine - you should expect this.


yeah this.

having done this in the past with past vehicles i've usually just gone to get 91 or 94 say at half a tank. then run that shit out to super empty, then fill up with 91 totally.

wth 4km both ways? and i thought my drive was short.
dude buy a bike! LOL
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#8788045 - 09/12/16 03:09 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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it'll be fine. what's the compression ratio on that thing? probably at most 10:1?

my car is 11.6:1, and even then premium is only "recommended". i still put in 91 tho.


Edited by titty sprinkles (09/12/16 03:10 PM)
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#8788053 - 09/12/16 03:15 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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go for a drive, use it up and put in the right gas at next fill up.
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#8788057 - 09/12/16 03:17 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age

Don't worry - these things all have knock sensors. Dont drive it hard, don't put it in a high load situation .


Exactly, 87 and 91 doesn't matter under light load (less than 50%) even on regular it won't pull timing as long as you aren't pushing it, the car will act the same. Even running 91, under load (90%+) the car will still most likely pull timing so you will be fine either way.

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#8788132 - 09/12/16 04:47 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Risky Business]
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Rob says you don't need it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GRsZ-MtsvU

/haven't watched it.

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#8788176 - 09/12/16 05:42 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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Ive run 87 in the SiR one time in the winter, I wasn't pushing it so I didn't notice any change in power really. I did notice that it got like 15% worse fuel mileage than I would normally get in the winter. Even ran 87 for short bits in the summer. Life goes on this is really a non-issue. If you want avoid driving it on really hot days until you can use the gas up and get more gas in there, and when it's at half full, just top it off with 94 which will put you at right around 90-91 octane which is the requirement.

A lot of dealerships don't put premium in cars that require it because there is no way of you knowing without sending the gas out for analysis.

I agree that the 4 km commute to work is a bigger issue to the health of the engine in the long run....

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#8788186 - 09/12/16 05:52 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 1300cc_Rocket]
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The only octane booster I know of that works well and really does boost a good degree is torco. Not sold at very many places. I used it in my Honda pwc when I was doing some tests and needed 97
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#8788349 - 09/12/16 09:01 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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 Originally Posted By: Raocorp
So Saturday I put gas in the Mini and then the next day as I'm putting gas in the Suzuki I realize that I don't remember putting in premium. So when I get home I look at the receipt and low and behold I put 87 in the Mini. I basically filled it and then drove home, max 15kms. Haven't touched it since (not because of the gas but because its always like that). Anyway, this is the first time I've done this. I guess I could just buy a bottle of octane booster and be done with it?
The shitty part is this gas will likely be in the car for a while as I don't really drive it all that much. And even if I decided to drive it to work everyday that would still take a while because I'm 4kms from work (both ways!)


Drain the tank and start over.

HPFP? More complicated. Old-fashioned = run the pump, stick the end of the fuel line in a bucket. Re-use fuel in the beater.

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#8788803 - 09/13/16 11:19 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: phoenixrage]
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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
if you really want to, you could just siphon it out?


I might actually do just this.....as I'll need the gas for the Suzuki anyway.
Funny thing is, the tank in the Mini will fill the Suzuki probs twice, or at the very least 1.5x.

Not a fan of sucking on pipes tho.....[/nohomo]

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#8788814 - 09/13/16 11:26 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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#8788852 - 09/13/16 11:48 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Risky Business]
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lol yep time to hand over the man card
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#8788881 - 09/13/16 12:05 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: loudsubz]
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...you do not need to actually suck on the fuel to siphon fluid out of the tank. look at how to siphon. It requires zero sucking :p

Also...WTF
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#8789053 - 09/13/16 02:34 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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Dafuq. Siphoning Goodluck on a new car.


That's the kind of shit I'd expect risky to do.
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#8789184 - 09/13/16 04:24 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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I have self respect. There are some things you will never see me do, like...siphoning out 87 octane from a mini cooper to fill up a suzuki samurai, being the perfect example.
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#8789191 - 09/13/16 04:29 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Risky Business]
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#8789252 - 09/13/16 05:32 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: titty sprinkles]
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is this a real thread? is this real life? lmfao
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#8789276 - 09/13/16 06:01 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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Better file a diminished value claim with insurance ASAP.
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#8789391 - 09/13/16 08:07 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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looks like the gas tank will need to be replaced as well. The 87 molecules are deeply embedded in the tank walls and will always fuck up the 91. Almost as bad as putting diesel in your car.
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#8789497 - 09/13/16 10:21 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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 Originally Posted By: Raocorp
 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
if you really want to, you could just siphon it out?


I might actually do just this.....as I'll need the gas for the Suzuki anyway.
Funny thing is, the tank in the Mini will fill the Suzuki probs twice, or at the very least 1.5x.
Not a fan of sucking on pipes tho.....[/nohomo]

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#8789593 - 09/14/16 07:53 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: loudsubz]
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 Originally Posted By: loudsubz
looks like the gas tank will need to be replaced as well. The 87 molecules are deeply embedded in the tank walls and will always fuck up the 91. Almost as bad as putting diesel in your car.
I've heard about this before. He's right. You might need to replace the fuel lines too. I'd run the updated straight lines. It will help the electrons in the gas flow smoother for more hp. It's an often overlooked yet easy hp mod.
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#8789620 - 09/14/16 08:21 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Euphoricuck]
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whatever you do make SURE you use this in your fuel tank, works wonders mate

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#8789626 - 09/14/16 08:31 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Is this real life?

Ugh -__-

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#8789671 - 09/14/16 09:12 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Wildout]
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guys don't be mean.
the easy fix is adding 5w30 oil in the tank. it's a known octane booster.
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#8789675 - 09/14/16 09:16 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: 4age]
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87 octane is the same as 91 octane, they just add more treatments to it to reduce its potency. If you install a fuel filter magnet that will help trap all of the treatments in the fuel filter and you'll have pure 91 octane going to the motor.
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#8789887 - 09/14/16 12:32 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: iamfob]
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 Originally Posted By: iamfob
 Originally Posted By: Raocorp
 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
if you really want to, you could just siphon it out?


I might actually do just this.....as I'll need the gas for the Suzuki anyway.
Funny thing is, the tank in the Mini will fill the Suzuki probs twice, or at the very least 1.5x.
Not a fan of sucking on pipes tho.....[/nohomo]



yea, we know he sucks the pipe and enjoys it
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#8790195 - 09/14/16 05:14 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: phoenixrage]
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Might as well change the transmission fluid as well.

Don't worry, just dont push it.


Edited by OracerO (09/14/16 05:15 PM)

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#8791303 - 09/15/16 06:11 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: OracerO]
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ya so everyone in here can now fuck off


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#8791874 - 09/16/16 10:46 AM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: Raocorp]
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lol
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#8794269 - 09/19/16 01:56 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: phoenixrage]
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Since you are working on the car, its a good time to change both the high beam and low beam the headlight fluid and rebuild the muffler bearings.
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#8794305 - 09/19/16 02:32 PM Re: FML....put 87 instead of 91. What do I do now? [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
Since you are working on the car, its a good time to change both the high beam and low beam the headlight fluid and rebuild the muffler bearings.


too late to the game....OP already chocked on gas and was buried Sunday...RIP OP

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